Hello Jorge,

Thank you kindly for your response, it is really appreciated.

I wasn’t aware that there were situations where the AC-DF must be disabled, so 
thank you for pointing this out.

Best Regards,

Menachem

From: Jorge Rabadan (Nokia) <jorge.raba...@nokia.com>
Date: Friday, 10 February 2023 at 21:01
To: Menachem Dodge <mdo...@drivenets.com>, bess@ietf.org <bess@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Section 8.5 of draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis
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Hi Menachem,

The way I see it, draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis will obsolete RFC7432, but it does 
not update or change RFC8584, so I don’t think draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis needs 
to repeat the aspects of RFC8584.

In particular, the AC-DF, as the other capabilities defined in other documents, 
is a capability that can be turned on or off. While it is very useful in many 
cases, it actually needs to be disabled in some others, e.g., 
draft-ietf-bess-evpn-mh-pa-07<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_html_draft-2Dietf-2Dbess-2Devpn-2Dmh-2Dpa-2D07&d=DwMGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cezglEhs6Oa_CKN9mhFbT8T8kmWwaNdtBDjE9bvBG_E&m=riVLy0OQBeLaMq_JEGyhiu2cyXZvEShyWx7I1ivvhk4&s=yFgBrU8G6vhhffq2WhDbFvC1lton-CrD1ZyD9Njvmu4&e=>

So the answer to your second question could be that the AC-DF capability should 
be configurable in the implementation, and used on all cases where issues with 
individual Attachment Circuits may create blackholes. However, it has to be 
disabled in case of port-active multi-homing.

My 2 cents..

Thanks.
Jorge


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Date: Friday, February 10, 2023 at 8:10 AM
To: bess@ietf.org <bess@ietf.org>
Subject: [bess] Section 8.5 of draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis
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Hello All,

In section 8.5 of draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis there is a reference to the Finite 
State Machine in section 2.1 of RFC 8584.

However, in section 4 of RFC 8584 the AC Influenced DF Election Capability is 
described and it states that this updates Step 3 of the procedure for service 
carving of RFC 7432.

Shouldn’t this AC-DF update be mentioned in the procedures of section 8.5 of 
draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis?

Is AC Influenced DF Election the preferred DF election method ?


According to RFC 8584 “ The procedure discussed in this section is applicable 
to the DF

   election in EVPN services 
[RFC7432<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_html_rfc7432&d=DwMGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cezglEhs6Oa_CKN9mhFbT8T8kmWwaNdtBDjE9bvBG_E&m=riVLy0OQBeLaMq_JEGyhiu2cyXZvEShyWx7I1ivvhk4&s=aqfzU3DPuV_iQ0NVF9v1OvahZmNDZzJocaZWGWtJAmc&e=>]
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[RFC8214<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_html_rfc8214&d=DwMGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cezglEhs6Oa_CKN9mhFbT8T8kmWwaNdtBDjE9bvBG_E&m=riVLy0OQBeLaMq_JEGyhiu2cyXZvEShyWx7I1ivvhk4&s=G8zyzHWbEax_6msa_bsbaJ4UhY9eYv4W8_bCPbFOCZo&e=>].
 “



Thank you kindly.

Best Regards,

Menachem Dodge​​​​
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