Hi Gyan,

I agree with your two first statements, but I’m afraid I don’t agree with this 
one:
“I would think HRW would be the new default algorithm used for DF election and 
would not be a knob as it fixes the major deficiencies with the modulus 
algorithm.”

The modulo-based DF algorithm remains the default algorithm in case of 
inconsistency in the Ethernet Segment peers. It uses DF Alg 0, while HRW uses 
type 1 and Preference type 2. HRW is not obsoleting the modulo-based or 
anything like that. The three algorithms are widely used in networks, and while 
the default one has limitations, it is simple and works out in many networks.

Thank you!
Jorge


From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusa...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, March 3, 2023 at 11:50 PM
To: Jorge Rabadan (Nokia) <jorge.raba...@nokia.com>
Cc: Menachem Dodge <mdo...@drivenets.com>, bess@ietf.org <bess@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bess] Section 8.5 of draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis

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Hi Jorge

As defined in RFC 8584 AC-DF and HRW are independent of each other.

RFC 8584 updates RFC 7432, however RFC 7432 bis does not update any aspect of 
RFC 8584 including HRW as you stated.

I would think HRW would be the new default algorithm used for DF election and 
would not be a knob as it fixes the major deficiencies with the modulus 
algorithm.

Thanks

Gyan
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 2:01 PM Jorge Rabadan (Nokia) 
<jorge.raba...@nokia.com<mailto:jorge.raba...@nokia.com>> wrote:
Hi Menachem,

The way I see it, draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis will obsolete RFC7432, but it does 
not update or change RFC8584, so I don’t think draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis needs 
to repeat the aspects of RFC8584.

In particular, the AC-DF, as the other capabilities defined in other documents, 
is a capability that can be turned on or off. While it is very useful in many 
cases, it actually needs to be disabled in some others, e.g., 
draft-ietf-bess-evpn-mh-pa-07<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-mh-pa-07>

So the answer to your second question could be that the AC-DF capability should 
be configurable in the implementation, and used on all cases where issues with 
individual Attachment Circuits may create blackholes. However, it has to be 
disabled in case of port-active multi-homing.

My 2 cents..

Thanks.
Jorge


From: BESS <bess-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of 
Menachem Dodge <mdo...@drivenets.com<mailto:mdo...@drivenets.com>>
Date: Friday, February 10, 2023 at 8:10 AM
To: bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org> <bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>>
Subject: [bess] Section 8.5 of draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis
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Hello All,

In section 8.5 of draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis there is a reference to the Finite 
State Machine in section 2.1 of RFC 8584.

However, in section 4 of RFC 8584 the AC Influenced DF Election Capability is 
described and it states that this updates Step 3 of the procedure for service 
carving of RFC 7432.

Shouldn’t this AC-DF update be mentioned in the procedures of section 8.5 of 
draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis?

Is AC Influenced DF Election the preferred DF election method ?


According to RFC 8584 “ The procedure discussed in this section is applicable 
to the DF

   election in EVPN services 
[RFC7432<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7432>] and EVPN VPWS 
[RFC8214<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8214>]. “



Thank you kindly.

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