Thanks Jorge!

Gyan


On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 2:06 AM Jorge Rabadan (Nokia) <
jorge.raba...@nokia.com> wrote:

> Hi Gyan,
>
>
>
> I agree with your two first statements, but I’m afraid I don’t agree with
> this one:
>
> “I would think HRW would be the new default algorithm used for DF election
> and would not be a knob as it fixes the major deficiencies with the modulus
> algorithm.”
>
>
>
> The modulo-based DF algorithm remains the default algorithm in case of
> inconsistency in the Ethernet Segment peers. It uses DF Alg 0, while HRW
> uses type 1 and Preference type 2. HRW is not obsoleting the modulo-based
> or anything like that. The three algorithms are widely used in networks,
> and while the default one has limitations, it is simple and works out in
> many networks.
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jorge
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Gyan Mishra <hayabusa...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, March 3, 2023 at 11:50 PM
> *To: *Jorge Rabadan (Nokia) <jorge.raba...@nokia.com>
> *Cc: *Menachem Dodge <mdo...@drivenets.com>, bess@ietf.org <bess@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [bess] Section 8.5 of draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis
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> Hi Jorge
>
>
>
> As defined in RFC 8584 AC-DF and HRW are independent of each other.
>
>
>
> RFC 8584 updates RFC 7432, however RFC 7432 bis does not update any aspect
> of RFC 8584 including HRW as you stated.
>
>
>
> I would think HRW would be the new default algorithm used for DF election
> and would not be a knob as it fixes the major deficiencies with the modulus
> algorithm.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Gyan
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 2:01 PM Jorge Rabadan (Nokia) <
> jorge.raba...@nokia.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Menachem,
>
>
>
> The way I see it, draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis will obsolete RFC7432, but it
> does not update or change RFC8584, so I don’t think
> draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis needs to repeat the aspects of RFC8584.
>
>
>
> In particular, the AC-DF, as the other capabilities defined in other
> documents, is a capability that can be turned on or off. While it is very
> useful in many cases, it actually needs to be disabled in some others,
> e.g., draft-ietf-bess-evpn-mh-pa-07
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-mh-pa-07>
>
>
>
> So the answer to your second question could be that the AC-DF capability
> should be configurable in the implementation, and used on all cases where
> issues with individual Attachment Circuits may create blackholes. However,
> it has to be disabled in case of port-active multi-homing.
>
>
>
> My 2 cents..
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jorge
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *BESS <bess-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Menachem Dodge <
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> *Date: *Friday, February 10, 2023 at 8:10 AM
> *To: *bess@ietf.org <bess@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *[bess] Section 8.5 of draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis
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> Hello All,
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>
> In section 8.5 of draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis there is a reference to the
> Finite State Machine in section 2.1 of RFC 8584.
>
>
>
> However, in section 4 of RFC 8584 the AC Influenced DF Election Capability
> is described and it states that this updates Step 3 of the procedure for
> service carving of RFC 7432.
>
>
>
> Shouldn’t this AC-DF update be mentioned in the procedures of section 8.5
> of draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis?
>
>
>
> Is AC Influenced DF Election the preferred DF election method ?
>
>
>
>
>
> According to RFC 8584 “ The procedure discussed in this section is
> applicable to the DF
>
>    election in EVPN services [RFC7432 
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7432>] and EVPN VPWS [RFC8214 
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8214>]. “
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you kindly.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
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