Hi Saumya,

A BGP UPDATE message can include those "only few prefixes" in the
MP_UNREACH attribute and then include the LBW ExtCom (with the desired
value) as well. That is the way to advertise what you seek. How this is
achieved is implementation specific.

I hope I am getting your question/point correctly. If not, and if it is
specific to BESS use-case that leverages LBW, then perhaps discuss in the
BESS WG if it can be included in
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-ebgp-dmz/

Thanks,
Ketan


On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 5:05 PM Dikshit, Saumya <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Ketan,
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> *>>> **but this is (or should be) something that every BGP developer is
> aware of.*
> [saumya] I understand that. But what I was looking for is, that there
> could be selective tying of bandwidth with only few prefixes for a specific
> next-hop. This is specific to the bandwidth extended community and
> applicable to one or more use-cases. Hence, I think needs a placeholder.
>
> I shall trigger the discussions in bess regarding recursive resolution.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Saumya.
> *From: *Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Monday, 25 August 2025 at 12:56 PM
> *To: *Dikshit, Saumya <[email protected]>
> *Cc: *Jeffrey Haas <[email protected]>, BESS <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [bess] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth (Ending
> 1 August, 2025)
>
> Hi Saumya,
>
> Pitching in here as I do the AD evaluation for the link-bandwidth draft.
> In my opinion, neither of these are directly related to the link bandwidth
> draft.
>
> The first point seems to be about general BGP UPDATE message packing that
> is applicable to any attribute and not specific to the LBW ExtCom. I can't
> remember off the top of my head if the topic of BGP update packing is
> covered by any RFC/draft but you can fork a new thread on IDR for
> discussion around it.
>
> The second point is use of the LBW ExtCom for EVPN and as such it is
> better covered in a BESS document. I am not sure
> if draft-ietf-bess-ebgp-dmz is that document or if there is another more
> appropriate one. I'll request you to start a separate thread on it and the
> BESS chairs to guide.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Thanks,
> Ketan
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2025 at 4:42 PM Dikshit, Saumya <saumya.dikshit=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Please help me with the below email.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Saumya.
> *From: *Dikshit, Saumya <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Monday, 18 August 2025 at 5:00 PM
> *To: *Jeffrey Haas <[email protected]>
> *Cc: *BESS <[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *[bess] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth (Ending 1
> August, 2025)
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Please see inline with tag [saumya]
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 07:07:59PM +0000, Dikshit, Saumya wrote:
> > I support the progression of this draft. Though I have few
> queries/clarifications:
> >
> > Is the definition of a link restricted to the underlay physical links or
> also mapped to logical ones like  TE-links mapping to a tunnel.
> > For example, a bandwidth tied to a VPN tunnel stitching two fabrics over
> WAN. (like a multisite deployment).
> >
> > Can we clarify the definition of the “link” if it’s not implicit.
>
> >From the first part of the draft:
> >: The Link Bandwidth Extended Community is defined as a BGP extended
> community
> >: that carries the bandwidth information of a router, represented by BGP
> >: Protocol Next Hop, connecting to remote network.
>
> >So, while the definition of a "link" is left vague in the specification,
> >it's clear in context that it's tied to a BGP next hop.
>
> [saumya] How I am seeing this is
>
>    - only one instance of* “*bandwidth extended community “ can be
>    carried in one BGP update message.
>       - And BGP update message encapsulation procedures are expected to
>       bucket as many NRLI’s as possible that share the next hop
>    - The choice of NLRI’s to be coupled with this extended community
>       - may not be just plain vanilla pointing to same next-hop
>       - but also might be driven via other policies as well.
>    - This will require a mention of these procedures with MAY clause,
>    since this draft is about this new extended community.
>
>
> >In terms of deployment use cases, it's not limited in this specification.
> >One of the discussions overlapping the feature is that the same community
> >can be used in-context for multiple things from underlay, to overlay, to
> >load balancing traffic across a provider core for Internet purposes.  The
> >draft, covering primarily encoding, doesn't try to restrict the use cases.
>
> [saumya] The usage specifically with Overlay Index.
>
>    - Should this newly attribute be carried with the UPDATE message
>    publishing the prefix as NLRI
>    - Or with the update message carrying the next-hop-resolution.
>    - For example, for EVPN RT-5’s carrying overlay index pointing to
>    RT-2’s and RT-1’s.
>       - Will this attribute be carried with with RT-5 or RT-2/1 which
>       resolve the route and carries the flattened next-hop
>
>
>
> >Some of the BESS discussion covering LBW covers these points along with
> the
> >operational use case for things like accumulation at multipath merge
> points.
> >I'd suggest familiarizing yourself with those drafts.
>
> [saumya] I couldn’t get any reference to its usage with Overlay index in
> bess or idr.  It will be great to have pointer to the drafts. Else we need
> to call out above bullets somewhere.
>
> I think overlay index usage is very important.
>
>
>
> >IDR will be coordinating with BESS to figure out the long term disposition
> >of those drafts now that the protocol component draft is moving forwarding
> >towards publication.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Saumya.
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