I was hoping for that, but didn't like to ask. debian-handbook.pdf says there are numerous front-ends to apt, and mentions synaptic and aptitude. But I see somewhere that these are not recommended for the RPi, a somewhat low-powered platform. Haven't tried them, so I can't verify that.
There are several operating systems for the RPi but the leader for now is Raspbian (aka debian wheezy linux), a debian derivative (as I believe is ubuntu). It's stunning what can be run on the RPi, but so far the fancier UIs are more in the nature of demos, and IMO not a sound basis for serious work. (But educational users will say: isn't everything a "demo"?) AFAICT the answer to "does Raspian have such-and-such"? is: if it's meant to run under debian, then: yes, probably -- provided you've got a big enough SD card, and don't mind a long pause. But I guess for a long time to come the real way to put the RPi to serious work will be via the Linux command line. So newbies will expect to download and install J like this: $ sudo apt-get install j801 In general I'd say, the more like the way Python does it, the better for its uptake. (Until J gets its own following and can innovate confidently in the RPi world.) On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:11 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > It is hoped that J801 can enter Raspberry Pi's official > software distribution so that users can use apt to install. > > In ubuntu there is a gui frontend for apt but I forgot its name, > are there anything similar to that in raspi? > > Пн, 17 июн 2013, Ian Clark писал(а): > > Sure, any way of getting the J tarball onto the RPi's SD card is ok. I > just > > opted for direct copying because my internet connection was flaky (it's > > fine now). > > > > The "conventional" way of downloading a new app is to use "apt-get" in a > > console session, which accesses the Pi Foundation's server. This does > > require your product to be sniffed-over by the Foundation. J's tarball > > sidesteps all that. I see however that www.dyalog.com are delivering > Dyalog > > APL for the RPi by hacking into "apt", a method that might be adapted to > J. > > The only advantage I can see (apart from doing things the done way) is to > > allow apt-get to uninstall the app as well as install it. > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:26 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I guess you can also download directly from raspi using its > > > midori (untested). > > > > > > Вс, 16 июн 2013, Ian Clark писал(а): > > > > Björn Helgason wrote: > > > > > j for rapberry is available at the i801 download > > > > > > > > However did I miss it? ... > > > > > > > > Ah, I see Bill's only just announced it. ...And it all works for me, > > > first > > > > time! > > > > And very nice it looks too (Well done, Team!) > > > > > > > > Out of hubris, I straightaway ran the Lab: "Displaying boxed nouns > > > > containing Unicode" > > > > ---to my astonishment and pleasure, it worked as it should. > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > Just for the record, here are my steps to install j801 on my RPi: > > > > > > > > From: http://www.jsoftware.com/download/j801/ > > > > downloaded: j801a_raspi32.tar.gz -onto my iMac desktop. > > > > copied it to the /boot directory of RPi's SD card (which is all > you > > > see > > > > of it using Finder) > > > > (but it seems it doesn't matter where this tarball resides) > > > > > > > > Then, in LXSession of RPi ... > > > > > > > > $ sudo tar -xzf /boot/j801a_raspi32.tar.gz > > > > > > > > ...creates a directory: ~/j801 (equiv to: /home/pi/j801) > > > > > > > > $ j801/bin/jconsole > > > > > > > > ...runs a j session. Once started ... > > > > > > > > install 'all' > > > > > > > > ...installs everything required (including, I guess, the binaries for > > > jqt) > > > > > > > > For convenience, I created an executable file: j and copied it to > /bin > > > ... > > > > > > > > $ echo -e '#! /bin/bash\n~/j801/bin/jqt' > j > > > > $ chmod +x j > > > > $ sudo cp j /bin/j > > > > > > > > Now I can run jqt by simply entering: j > > > > > > > > IanClark > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > j for rapberry is available at the i801 download > > > > > > > > > > dyalog apl is also available > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups > > > > > "J Programming" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected] > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.jsoftware.com > > > > > --- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups > > > > > "J Programming" group. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > > > an > > > > > email to [email protected]. > > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > -- > > > regards, > > > ==================================================== > > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > -- > regards, > ==================================================== > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
