Mike

>BTW  Micro$oft does not just delete delete stuff, i moves it to a bin, and 
>only empties that when it gets overfull ... so look for "$Recycle Bin". Has 
>saved my bacon many a time;-)

greg
~krsnadas.org

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from: Mike Day <[email protected]>
to: [email protected]
date: 20 June 2014 10:41
subject: Re: [Jbeta] new J802 beta

Touche. Serves me right for teasing you about Pirate talk.

>I usually do rename the old folder, but thought a cleaner installation might 
>get over that slow loading problem I'd had. (it hasn't!)

>As for backing up - yes of course, but..... ie the same old story

Thanks,

Mike

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from: chris burke <[email protected]>
to: Beta forum <[email protected]>
date: 20 June 2014 08:14
subject: Re: [Jbeta] new J802 beta

>The standard J installation puts ~user outside of ~install so as to preserve 
>it on uninstall.

>Also, we only suggested a reinstall. J does not touch the registry, so the 
>easy thing to do is rename the old J802 folder as a backup before installing 
>again.

>BTW, backing up every few weeks is asking for trouble. Why not backup every 
>day?

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from: Mike Day <[email protected]>
to: [email protected]
date: 20 June 2014 07:34
subject: Re: [Jbeta] new J802 beta

>Because that's where it's always been! I had thought that this was tolerated 
>despite not being preferred. Same as I keep ws and myws folders under dyalog 
>apl despite that not being their recommendation.

Mike

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from: bill lam <[email protected]>
to: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
date: 20 June 2014 05:21
subject: Re: [Jbeta] new J802 beta

>Uninstall should remove the ~install folder, ~addon is under ~install folder 
>so it will be removed. However ~user should be a separate folder created by 
>default profile. Why you would prefer putting ~user under ~install ?

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from: Mike Day <[email protected]>
to: [email protected]
date: 20 June 2014 03:08
subject: Re: [Jbeta] new J802 beta

>I took you at your word and uninstalled J802 ready to reinstall from scratch, 
>taking the precaution of renaming user as user802 so it wouldn't get 
>overwritten or deleted. I did consider setting it as read-only but thought 
>better of it. Admittedly, my user folder sits under j802 rather than in 
>j802-user or whatever.

>To my horror, I saw all user802 files and folders deleted. Luckily I do have a 
>back-up disk which is a few weeks old, but I've lost all recent stuff. Luckily 
>(!?) I was smart enough to copy addons and profile....ijs to another area, to 
>save time reinstating them later.

>I thought (obviously wrongly) that uninstalls usually left user-defined files 
>and folders untouched.

It might be worth warning other users of this feature.

Now to see what goes wrong with install...

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from: Mike Day <[email protected]>
to: [email protected]
date: 20 June 2014 02:40
subject: Re: [Jbeta] new J802 beta

>Aaaaargh - debugger be not ready for thee Beta Jay - sounds like my Avast in 
>"talk like a Pirate" (or parrot) mode! Thankee, Chris.

>Seriously though - I continue to have J602 up and use its debugger when in a 
>J802 fix. OK for plain programming problems.

Mike

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from: chris burke <[email protected]>
to: Beta forum <[email protected]>
date: 19 June 2014 21:17
subject: Re: [Jbeta] new J802 beta

>We want to restore the Debugger sometime, but it not be ready for the J802 
>release.

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from: Fraser Jackson <[email protected]>
to: [email protected]
date: 19 June 2014 20:57
subject: Re: [Jbeta] new J802 beta

>Calling the Debugger from the Run menu used to be an option which I found very 
>useful. Is that likely to be restored?

Fraser

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from: Joe Bogner <[email protected]>
to: [email protected]
date: 19 June 2014 19:20
subject: Re: [Jbeta] new J802 beta

>Scrollbars and the editor looks great on my android samsung s4. Much more 
>usable. Thank you

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from: chris burke <[email protected]>
to: Beta forum <[email protected]>
date: 19 June 2014 19:03
subject: [Jbeta] new J802 beta

A new 802 beta is available for most platforms. As before, install from
http://www.jsoftware.com/download/j802/install.

Please try reinstalling from scratch, thanks.
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