I do not think youngsters would have any problem with +/ or any other
computing mechanism unless too much time is spent going over theory
and thoughts and not enough time is spent going over practical
aspects.

For that matter, I think youngsters can understand quantum mechanics
if it's presented to them the right way, and if we do not ask too much
from them. Just keep it practical (for example: talk about the rainbow
effect of thin oil on water - and show it to them - and leave
development of more cerebral topics for later).

Thanks,

-- 
Raul


On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another alternative is the data: url format and/or storing the image
> in the J session instead of in the temp directory.
>
> Whether those are good alternatives is another issue...
>
> Another alternative would be to upload the image to a hosting service.
> But that's probably better taken by the community (I'm not sure if
> Linda would feel like doing that, but maybe one of Henry's students
> would be interested in?) If that's too hard, then we probably should
> build a toolkit for building such things.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:05 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> jhs is server and a browser is the client. png are stored inside
>> ~temp of server so that a browser cannot delete and will not
>> wory about png files in server.
>>
>> jhs (the server) cannot know how long the client will need the
>> pngs so that jhs does not wish to delete those png.
>>
>> only the jhs admin (you) can decide when to clean up the
>> ~temp folder.
>>
>> An alternative is to send binary data of bitmap over the net and
>> let the browser to render it in canvas using html5. But not all
>> browsers can support this.
>>
>> Чт, 18 сен 2014, Linda Alvord написал(а):
>>> I just did the new  update and everything looks good.  I now have lots of
>>> png's.  The way I imagine using this is in a terminal with kids making many
>>> images without worrying about pngs.  Maybe viewmatp could be used when you
>>> want one and otherewise you wouldn't get one.  Just an idea.
>>>
>>> This is really great!
>>>
>>> Linda
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bill lam
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:52 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Jbeta] Maybe you'll see the ghosts
>>>
>>> Can you confirm the version number of viewmat which should be 1.0.56
>>> otherwise update viewmat, restart jhs . Close all old webpages and start
>>> over.
>>>
>>> Also it would better to right click and save images as png than jpeg
>>> because images from viewmat are flat color (not photograph).
>>> On Sep 18, 2014 4:42 PM, "Linda Alvord" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I reinstalled J803. This was true.  Both looked great.  I closed JHS.
>>> When
>>> > I opened it again and the mixed images  were back.
>>> >
>>> > Sorry.  Linda
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: [email protected]
>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Alvord
>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:50 AM
>>> > To: [email protected]
>>> > Subject: Re: [Jbeta] Maybe you'll see the ghosts
>>> >
>>> > Everything looks great this morning!  Thank you!   Linda
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: [email protected]
>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Alvord
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM
>>> > To: [email protected]
>>> > Subject: [Jbeta] Maybe you'll see the ghosts
>>> >
>>> > Here's the one that geets in trouble:  Run it first in JHS.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > load 'viewmat'
>>> >
>>> > ]GRB=:1 0 2{"1 (#:i.8){0 255
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > GRB viewmat i.16
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ]C=:i.12
>>> >
>>> > GRB viewmat C
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ]D=:3 4$i.12
>>> >
>>> > GRB viewmat D
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ]M=:5 3$i.15
>>> >
>>> > GRB viewmat M
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > GRB viewmat 7 3$i.21
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ]B=:4 4$i.16
>>> >
>>> > GRB viewmat B
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > GRB viewmat |: B
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > GRB viewmat |.|:B
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ]T=:+/~i.16
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > GRB viewmat T;'T'
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Now try this:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > load 'viewmat'
>>> >
>>> > ]GRB=:1 0 2{"1 ( #:i.8){0 255
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > at2=: 13 :'([:{:"1 *.) j./"1 y'
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > C=:at2"0 /~ i:10
>>> >
>>> > viewmat C
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > viewmat C;'C'
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > GRB viewmat C
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > GRB viewmt C;'C'
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Finallly run the first one again.  I get very starange results.  Vista on
>>> > Windows  JHS
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Here is a script  ( in the reverse order of the first one above) for  jqt.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > It sows what I want in JHS so I can see the images and the tables in a
>>> > readable order.   Thanks for any suggestions.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Actually thee the  jqt  version is run on my phone I like the images best,
>>> > but you can't see the data until you have looked at all the images.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Linda
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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