At 09:32 -0400 2006/06/03, Brian Schott wrote:
First the good news: I have found the way to get some of these Mac-centric keystroke shortcuts to work now.Now some not so good news: ..... There does NOT appear any way to make command+w close a window.
Brian, Thank you for your experiments and observations. I hadn't thought to mention before, but I really appreciate that Cmd-q quits j (without the pesky "Do you want to close?" message). I assume that Roger uses something like Alt+F4 to quit, since he has long been an outspoken critic of "Are you sure?" style messages.... About the Fx keys, I think they are more tricky to deal with and already have definitions (at least the upper ones) in OS X that are useful and supply some of the things that are in J menu items (like F10 displaying all the windows of the current active application and F9 showing all visible windows). It is nice that F1 and Shift+F1 behave as advertised, but too bad about Cntrl+F1 not working... I think these issues may be amongst those that are impossible to "solve correctly" - I was dismayed several releases ago when MS removed a bunch of shortcut keys from Excel. Actually, the only one that I was a big fan of was Command+D/R for "paste down/right" in selected cells. I think it was probably their answer to the kind of complaints we are hearing here. I look forward to more exploration into ways that a user can set things up the way she wants them (and not have to do all the work over again in the next release...) - joey ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
