> From: Raul Miller
> Sent: Saturday, 6 November 2010 08:41
> 
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Eric Iverson wrote:
> > Unless there is a lot of push back, the installers will be 
> > minimal systems pretty much as currently seen on the beta
> > download page. When an installer
> > is built it will contain the latest J engine, libraries, and
> > JHS.
> > Everything else will be through pacman or the web site.
> 
> ...[snip]...
> 
> Personally, I have no "in principle" objection to packaging 
> minimal J
> as a bootstrap loader for a full J system.  But I think that the
> process
> of migrating from bootstrap system to full system should be well
> documented and easy to manage, and the result should be easy
> to start and use.

I agree with this perspective "in principle". 

However I also have some sympathy with the view that an additional downloadable 
installer should be made available that includes a full GTK IDE (including 
help, demos, plot, graphics addons) experience out-of-the-box. 

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