Hi Brian,

If you had done a install'gtkide' or getgtkbin, it would fetch a gtk binary
for macintel and override that already there on ~install/gtk.

In additional, the latest gtk script will only detect x-window gtk binary
if there is no file for gtk quartz. Therefore if both 
 libgtk-quartz-2.0.dylib
 libgtk-x11-2.0.dylib
are present, it will use quartz instead of x11.

You can try remove the folder ~install/gtk first, and then do a "cp -R" as
what you had done last time, and check if files under ~install/gtk will
look ok.

For a fresh installation, use pacman manually install gtk and gtkide, and 
then execute your specific 'cp -R' to install the gtk binary.

If it works again, never try install'gtkide' or getgtkbin in the future
unless you have migrated to a macintel or getgtkbin support x11 gtk binary
for ppc mac.

The error messages is outdated and only intended as a general guideline.

Сбт, 15 Янв 2011, Brian Schott писал(а):
> Bill,
> 
> I repeated the install and got the same error.
> 
> This time I correctly did an install'gtkide' before doing
> a load'gtkide' because doing the load first evoked an
> error saying to do the install. But the other results are
> identical.
> 
> I am not sure what you mean by "just(ing) starting computer."
> 
> And while we are revisiting this let me mention another problem.
> The error message I get includes the following suggestion.
> 
>  find / -name libgtk-x11-2.0.dylib 2> /dev/null
> 
> Two problems with that instruction are that it require a sudo
> on my computer and even then it throws the following
> error message.
> 
> find: 2: unknown expression primary
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:08 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > It is strange that it did not work by justing starting computer.  Can you
> > repeat the install again similar to that last time?
> >
> > Сбт, 15 Янв 2011, Brian Schott писал(а):
> >> Bill and others,
> >>
> >> I'm sorry but after I am back with jgtk not working again on my
> >> PowerPC Mac. When it would not work, I closed X11 and started over.
> >> Below is an excerpt from the new X11 xterm. Can you get me back on
> >> track, please?
> >>
> >> ]% ~/j701/bin/jconsole
> >>    i. 4
> >> 0 1 2 3
> >>    load'pacman'
> >>    'update'jpkg''
> >> Updating server catalog...
> >> Local JAL information was last updated: 15 Jan 2011 17:28:57
> >> Installed addons are up to date, 45 addons are not yet installed.
> >> The base library is up to date.
> >>    load'gtkide'
> >>
> >> GTK init failed: libraries not installed or not found.
> >>
> >> Find path to the gtk folder with Finder or shell command:
> >> ...> find / -name libgtk-x11-2.0.dylib 2> /dev/null
> >>
> >> If not found, you need to install GTK.
> >>
> >> The GTK installation is assumed to be in the Libraries framework.
> >>
> >> /Library/Frameworks/Gtk.framework/Libraries
> >> /Library/Frameworks/Glib.framework/Libraries
> >> ...
> >>
> >> |domain error: gtkinit
> >> |       13!:8[3
> >>    libgtk_jgtk_
> >> ââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ
> >> â/Users/brian/j701/gtk/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.0.dylibâ
> >> ââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ
> >>    libgdk_jgtk_
> >> ââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ
> >> â/Users/brian/j701/gtk/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.0.dylibâ
> >> ââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ
> >>    fexist libgtk_jgtk_
> >> 1
> >>    fexist libgdk_jgtk_
> >> 1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks, in advance,
> >>
> >> (B=)
> >> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:14 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Sorry to know this. I guess your cp -R is OK but the gtk binary was
> >> > hardwired at that location.  I know tool to relocate but never tried by
> >> > myself.  So no need to upload at this moment.
> >> >
> >> > BTW if you keep gimp, further upgrading via pacman should not fail your
> >> > gtkide again.
> >> >
> >> > Сбт, 08 Янв 2011, Brian Schott писал(а):
> >> >> Bad news about that idea of jgtk working independently of Gimp; when I
> >> >> change the name of Gimp to Gimpxx or anything, jgtk no longer works.
> >> >> You may not remember that I am not launching with the jgtk701 greenJ
> >> >> icon, but by typing directly into the unix console  `open-x11
> >> >> ~/j701/bin/jgtk.command` so this is really a workaround. So I won't be
> >> >> uploading the files, right?
> >> >>
> >> >> But, again, I don't understand the result of using `-R` option in the
> >> >> cp command and that may be what is keeping the files I copied tied or
> >> >> linked to the Gimp directory. Should I try a different option to see
> >> >> if that unties the two?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:42 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > Good to know jgtk works for you again. Could you also further test if 
> >> >> > jgtk
> >> >> > can work independent of the other gimp package by renaming that Gimp 
> >> >> > folder
> >> >> > or moving it to another location.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If jgtk can work too, could you please zip the entire ~install/gtk 
> >> >> > folder
> >> >> > and upload to some places like rapidshare.com that I can get, or 
> >> >> > directly
> >> >> > email to me if size is around 10MB.
> >> >> >
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