Good points about keyboard button. A very minor drawback is that touching
log to dismiss keyboard leaves cursor in log. A bigger drawback is that
this works only because the log isn't editable and so doesn't work on the
editview. We could have the keyboard button only on editview but then lose
some nice symetry. I am kicking around ideas in my head and would sure like
to drop a button.

I'm not going to do anything on your good suggestions for help for this
first release. I think there is more that can be done with what is already
there and some real use experience would be valuable.

I believe that if you use jw'vocab' to get the vocab page in your browser
that it will 'tend' to stay available even when you are offline. I wonder
what real world experience with this is like. I know people who stock up on
google map views so they can see them when on a trip without wifi.

You could try jfromurl with '
http://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help701/dictionary/vocabul.htm
and then try feeding that to htmlview (see defn of jh). Not sure how links
and references work in htmlview so you might be  missing css files and
such. Perhaps they could be easily provided by download the necessary bits
and putting them in a similar folder structure.

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:21 PM, bob therriault <bobtherria...@mac.com>wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> Of all the buttons, the one I think that you may be able to do without is
> the keyboard button. The keyboard already appears when you tap the text
> entry field, and it disappears when you click on the screen away from the
> keyboard. It is nice to have an overt way to bring the keyboard in or out,
> but I don't see that it makes up for the shorter space in the text entry
> field. It is certainly possible that I am missing some added functionality
> that the keyboard button provides and would love to hear if that is the
> case.
>
> On a second note since we seem to be wrapping up the beta, have you given
> any bought to including the J documentation through html as part of the
> download. That html window seems to me to be a natural way to provide help
> and not get in the way of the J text area. This is becoming even more
> apparent with your last 5 screen option, which means that even with
> graphics or plots you could use an html help and then swipe back to the
> graphics display. The documentation already exists on the Jsoftware site in
> html format so accessing via the web is a quick fix for it, but it seems to
> me that having documentation available even when you are off the grid is a
> feature (especially given the quality of the J learning materials).
>
> Just my 2 bits, you've done a great job on this beta.
>
> cheers, bob
>
> On 2012-05-30, at 7:12 AM, Eric Iverson wrote:
>
> > Re the bullet button - read the simple  docs.
> >
> > Not sure what can be done about the limited iPhone portrait landscape. I
> am
> > loath to give up any of the buttons, or to make them skinnier, or to use
> > more screen space for a different layout.
> >
> > For longer lines on the iPhone the solution may just have to be to go
> > landscape.
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Dan Bron <j...@bron.us> wrote:
> >
> >> I do feel the input textfield is too short now.  Also, I pushed the
> button
> >> and got an error.  What is its intended function?
> >>
> >> Also, can we turn off this gate that comes back every time I upgrade,
> which
> >> forces me to step through a bunch of examples before I can type my first
> >> sentence in J?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> -Dan
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: beta-boun...@jsoftware.com [mailto:beta-boun...@jsoftware.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Eric Iverson
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:35 PM
> >> To: Beta forum
> >> Subject: [Jbeta] 1.19
> >>
> >> Build 1.19 adds a bullet button that can ease typging chores.
> >>
> >> Adding that button reduces the textfield a bit on the iPhone. Is it too
> >> short? Could the buttons be made skinnier?
> >>
> >> I don't currently have a real iPhone device and the simulator can be
> >> misleading.
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