On 24.10.2007, at 12:53, François Briatte wrote:

>> So why not change how 'book' is printed. The whole point about
> biblatex is that these things can be changed easily.
>
> True, it's always a solution to recode yourself, but were is that
> explained clearly in the manual?

Where is what explained? How you can recode things? Most of the  
manual is about that ...

simon

> I probably missed it by lack of time
> for a proper reading. It's also a shame the custom German style hosted
> on arcor.de have been suspended.
>
> FB
>
> On 23/10/2007, Simon Spiegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On 23.10.2007, at 17:22, François Briatte wrote:
>>
>>> 'Of course it makes sense that the container for 'incollection'  
>>> would
>>> be 'collection' ;)'
>>>
>>> Yes, this is what biblatex suggests. I have tried the
>>> book/incollection combination, which is my usual coding too, but
>>> biblatex is not rendering the 'book' part properly, so I have  
>>> switched
>>> to 'proceedings' (which is fine and rather consistent anyway, many
>>> collective books start as workshops).
>>
>> So why not change how 'book' is printed. The whole point about
>> biblatex is that these things can be changed easily.
>>
>> simon
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the comments
>>>
>>> On 21/10/2007, James Howison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> I don't use BibLatex, so YRMV, but for 'edited book chapters' in
>>>> books where there are different authors for each chapter (ie the  
>>>> book
>>>> is a collection of articles) I've always used 'incollection' and  
>>>> just
>>>> 'book' without authors but with editors for the container item.
>>>> Perhaps try that before creating new bibtex types ...
>>>>
>>>> @incollection{author2007some-edited-boo,
>>>>         Author = {Author, Article},
>>>>         Crossref = {2007some-edited-boo},
>>>>         Pages = {1-25},
>>>>         Title = {An article in the book}}
>>>>
>>>> @book{2007some-edited-boo,
>>>>         Editor = {editor, First and editor, Second},
>>>>         Publisher = {Sage Publications},
>>>>         Title = {Some edited book},
>>>>         Year = {2007}}
>>>>
>>>> Of course it makes sense that the container for 'incollection'  
>>>> would
>>>> be 'collection' ;)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 21, 2007, at 6:39 AM, François Briatte wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I asked here because BibDesk does not have a 'collection' type,
>>>>> which
>>>>> seems the only way to refer to an edited book (example below) with
>>>>> biblatex.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the precision though!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> E.g. Smith, John and Smith, Ann (2003) The Typical Collective
>>>>>>> Book,
>>>>>>> London, Routledge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fr.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/10/2007, Alex Hamann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> wuerzburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Although this is not the best place to ask questions related to
>>>>>> BibTeX (better: the macostex list) in general here is the
>>>>>> description
>>>>>> from btxdoc.pdf (the guide to bibtex):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> proceedings: The proceedings of a conference. Required fields:
>>>>>> title,
>>>>>> year.
>>>>>> Optional fields: editor, volume or number, series, address,  
>>>>>> month,
>>>>>> organization, publisher, note.
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Collections in the way you describe them are usually just
>>>>>> referred to
>>>>>> as "books" or "booklets", as far as I am aware of.
>>>>>> But if you are using biblatex you are in a more flexible
>>>>>> environment
>>>>>> anyway, so as long as you do not have to collaborate on papers I
>>>>>> would not worry too much about the strictness of the bibtex- 
>>>>>> system.
>>>>>> (others may disagree on this)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 19.10.2007 um 21:31 schrieb François Briatte:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Biblatex refers to 'collection' for edited books where chapters
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> different authors. Is this the same as 'proceeding'? This is
>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>> use when I have such books, even though they are not proceedings
>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>> of the time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> E.g. Smith, John and Smith, Ann (2003) The Typical Collective
>>>>>>> Book,
>>>>>>> London, Routledge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers, Fr.
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