I found the manual helpful but still (depending on the amount of
customizations you want) some tweaking was needed in my case. The
styles that biblatex provides were helpful to understanding how
recoding can be done effectively.
besides, has anyone heard when we can eventually expect the next
biblatex release?
alex
Am 24.10.2007 um 13:53 schrieb François Briatte:
> (now off-topic)
>
> Well it does strike me then as an issue that no clearly identifiable
> section provides a guide as to how customise styling properly (Section
> 3.3 did not do the trick). I will wait for further releases with
> tutorials.
>
> On 24/10/2007, Simon Spiegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On 24.10.2007, at 12:53, François Briatte wrote:
>>
>>>> So why not change how 'book' is printed. The whole point about
>>> biblatex is that these things can be changed easily.
>>>
>>> True, it's always a solution to recode yourself, but were is that
>>> explained clearly in the manual?
>>
>> Where is what explained? How you can recode things? Most of the
>> manual is about that ...
>>
>> simon
>>
>>> I probably missed it by lack of time
>>> for a proper reading. It's also a shame the custom German style
>>> hosted
>>> on arcor.de have been suspended.
>>>
>>> FB
>>>
>>> On 23/10/2007, Simon Spiegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 23.10.2007, at 17:22, François Briatte wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 'Of course it makes sense that the container for 'incollection'
>>>>> would
>>>>> be 'collection' ;)'
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, this is what biblatex suggests. I have tried the
>>>>> book/incollection combination, which is my usual coding too, but
>>>>> biblatex is not rendering the 'book' part properly, so I have
>>>>> switched
>>>>> to 'proceedings' (which is fine and rather consistent anyway, many
>>>>> collective books start as workshops).
>>>>
>>>> So why not change how 'book' is printed. The whole point about
>>>> biblatex is that these things can be changed easily.
>>>>
>>>> simon
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the comments
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/10/2007, James Howison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> I don't use BibLatex, so YRMV, but for 'edited book chapters' in
>>>>>> books where there are different authors for each chapter (ie the
>>>>>> book
>>>>>> is a collection of articles) I've always used 'incollection' and
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> 'book' without authors but with editors for the container item.
>>>>>> Perhaps try that before creating new bibtex types ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @incollection{author2007some-edited-boo,
>>>>>> Author = {Author, Article},
>>>>>> Crossref = {2007some-edited-boo},
>>>>>> Pages = {1-25},
>>>>>> Title = {An article in the book}}
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @book{2007some-edited-boo,
>>>>>> Editor = {editor, First and editor, Second},
>>>>>> Publisher = {Sage Publications},
>>>>>> Title = {Some edited book},
>>>>>> Year = {2007}}
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course it makes sense that the container for 'incollection'
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be 'collection' ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2007, at 6:39 AM, François Briatte wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I asked here because BibDesk does not have a 'collection' type,
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> seems the only way to refer to an edited book (example below)
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> biblatex.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the precision though!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> E.g. Smith, John and Smith, Ann (2003) The Typical Collective
>>>>>>>>> Book,
>>>>>>>>> London, Routledge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21/10/2007, Alex Hamann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> wuerzburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Although this is not the best place to ask questions related to
>>>>>>>> BibTeX (better: the macostex list) in general here is the
>>>>>>>> description
>>>>>>>> from btxdoc.pdf (the guide to bibtex):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>> proceedings: The proceedings of a conference. Required fields:
>>>>>>>> title,
>>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>> Optional fields: editor, volume or number, series, address,
>>>>>>>> month,
>>>>>>>> organization, publisher, note.
>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Collections in the way you describe them are usually just
>>>>>>>> referred to
>>>>>>>> as "books" or "booklets", as far as I am aware of.
>>>>>>>> But if you are using biblatex you are in a more flexible
>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>> anyway, so as long as you do not have to collaborate on
>>>>>>>> papers I
>>>>>>>> would not worry too much about the strictness of the bibtex-
>>>>>>>> system.
>>>>>>>> (others may disagree on this)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 19.10.2007 um 21:31 schrieb François Briatte:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Biblatex refers to 'collection' for edited books where
>>>>>>>>> chapters
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> different authors. Is this the same as 'proceeding'? This is
>>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>>> use when I have such books, even though they are not
>>>>>>>>> proceedings
>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>> of the time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> E.g. Smith, John and Smith, Ann (2003) The Typical Collective
>>>>>>>>> Book,
>>>>>>>>> London, Routledge.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Fr.
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