Yes, it really does seem to be a problem with older systems. That makes it very hard to fix, as I cannot see it myself, and the problem is deep inside Apple’s very basic code, so that sounds like a system bug.
Christiaan > On 11 Sep 2021, at 03:14, Gilberto C <ah.gilbert...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS Big > Sur (11.5.2)? > —G > > >> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton <napax...@gmail.com >> <mailto:napax...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, and I get >> ehet the rainbow beach ball of death. >> >> I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was no Spin >> Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help. >> >> -N >> <BibDesk_2021-09-10-192932_MacintoshNAP.cpu_resource.diag> >> >> ----- >> Nathan Paxton >> napax...@gmail.com <mailto:napax...@gmail.com> >> >> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too >> dark to read. >> —Mark Twain >> (It's kind of cramped, too.) >> >>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I have uploaded a test version to >>> <https://bibdesk.sourceforge.io/BibDesk.dmg >>> <https://bibdesk.sourceforge.io/BibDesk.dmg>>. Perhaps you can download it >>> and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit more efficiently. >>> >>> Christiaan >>> >>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R. <klas...@rowan.edu >>>> <mailto:klas...@rowan.edu>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the entries—I >>>> assume by “groups” you mean those created by that. I opened the .bib file >>>> in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, and now it opens. >>>> It takes, literally, 2 minutes to open (53 entries) and overall >>>> navigation in the system seems a bit sluggish, but I can see all the >>>> entries. >>>> >>>> While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the >>>> keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and CPU >>>> ramp up. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his) >>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy >>>> Rowan University >>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road >>>> Glassboro, NJ 08028 >>>> >>>> SCI 130E >>>> 856-256-4391 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users >>>>> <bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> <mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of groups. >>>>> Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib >>>>> file it hangs. >>>>> >>>>> Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty file >>>>> first, and then tried the default bib file. >>>>> I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the group >>>>>> table? >>>>>> >>>>>> Christiaan >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout the >>>>>>> group table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be >>>>>>> efficient, we’re not doing anything really complicated and expensive >>>>>>> for this particular view. Do you have a really large number groups? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Christiaan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users >>>>>>>> <bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>> <mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does that help any? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no idea >>>>>>>>> what could give a problem. I cannot say anything without seeing a >>>>>>>>> sample from someone who has this problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Christiaan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R. <klas...@rowan.edu >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:klas...@rowan.edu>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… >>>>>>>>>> MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9% >>>>>>>>>> Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in >>>>>>>>>> trying to do anything is horrible. So, basically, I can’t do any >>>>>>>>>> work with it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and >>>>>>>>>> rising.] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his) >>>>>>>>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy >>>>>>>>>> Rowan University >>>>>>>>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road >>>>>>>>>> Glassboro, NJ 08028 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> SCI 130E >>>>>>>>>> 856-256-4391 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Strange, I am having no problem. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you could make a Sample of BiBdesk using Activity Monitor, >>>>>>>>>>> and send it to me off list? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Christiaan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 18:41, Jodi Schneider <jschnei...@pobox.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jschnei...@pobox.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I updated. My default is an empty library (0 references) so >>>>>>>>>>>> BibDesk does open for me. However, on trying to open RIS and >>>>>>>>>>>> BibTeX files, I too get Mac's spinning beach ball. (Mac 10.14.6 if >>>>>>>>>>>> that is has an impact.) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users >>>>>>>>>>>> <bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just updated, but now when I open BibDesk I get the spinning >>>>>>>>>>>> beach ball :( >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Christiaan Hofman >>>>>>>>>>>>> <cmhof...@gmail.com <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a new >>>>>>>>>>>>> version of BibDesk, version 1.8.4, is now available. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We thank the users who have contributed to BibDesk development by >>>>>>>>>>>>> sharing their experiences with BibDesk, and testing nightly >>>>>>>>>>>>> builds. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This release can be obtained by selecting "check for updates" in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the "BibDesk" menu, visiting the Sourceforge downloads page at >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or by visiting the BibDesk home page at >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/ <http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or by following the link below, which will begin immediate >>>>>>>>>>>>> download: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For those interested follow the full release notes for this >>>>>>>>>>>>> version. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Release notes for BibDesk version 1.8.4 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> New Features >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Allow deleting bookmarks by dragging to the trash >>>>>>>>>>>>> * New preference to hide group highlights >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Allow changing the fields to filter with in the quick search >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Contextual menu when searching file content >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Restore favicon in browser >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Save file links using modern bookmark data >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bugs Fixed >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Improve UI >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Avoid some macro strings editing problems in rare situations >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Prevent crasher after closing a document containing macros >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix moving multiple bookmarks by dragging >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix undo of moving bookmarks >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix toggle for detail editor side bar >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix adding publications from clipboard when the data starts >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a URL >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Improve table UIs >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Improve animation of control views >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Improve efficiency of UI updating >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix Journal field from RIS import >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix Quick Look updates when selection changes >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix opening files in some cases >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Try not to collapse last column in main table >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <sample.txt> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <sample2.txt>_______________________________________________ >>>>> Bibdesk-users mailing list >>>>> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> <mailto:Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >>>>> <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bibdesk-users mailing list >>> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >>> <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bibdesk-users mailing list >> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > > _______________________________________________ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users Christiaan
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