That’s good news! At least I now know what the problem is and how to work around it, even though the system should not need working around very basic system operations.
As for the tex preview, that just takes as long as it takes by tex, that’s mostly out of our hands. Christiaan > On 12 Sep 2021, at 04:58, Nathan A. Paxton <napax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It now opens and works mostly as expected. Preview is quite slow, but > that could always be a different issue, so I will start a new thread about > that (I’m using biblatex and biber to do chicago-authordate, so that requires > a couple edits to the template. > > -NAP > ----- > Nathan Paxton > napax...@gmail.com <mailto:napax...@gmail.com> > > Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark > to read. > —Mark Twain > (It's kind of cramped, too.) > >> On 11 Sep 2021, at 1:02 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com >> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Did anyone try the latest test version at >> <https://bibdesk.sourceforge.io/BibDesk.dmg >> <https://bibdesk.sourceforge.io/BibDesk.dmg>>? It could give me some idea >> about what the problems and how to possibly fix it. >> >> Christiaan >> >>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:51, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> It’s linked to on the web site. >>> >>> Christiaan >>> >>>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:29, Nathan Paxton <napax...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:napax...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Blergh. If that’s the case, where can I download 1.8.2, which did work, >>>> until I’m ready to go to OS 11? >>>> >>>> -Nathan Paxton >>>> >>>> Please excuse misspelling and autocorrect artifacts as this is "Sent from >>>> my iPhone" >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 05:04, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, it really does seem to be a problem with older systems. That makes >>>>> it very hard to fix, as I cannot see it myself, and the problem is deep >>>>> inside Apple’s very basic code, so that sounds like a system bug. >>>>> >>>>> Christiaan >>>>> >>>>>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 03:14, Gilberto C <ah.gilbert...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:ah.gilbert...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS >>>>>> Big Sur (11.5.2)? >>>>>> —G >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton <napax...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:napax...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, >>>>>>> and I get ehet the rainbow beach ball of death. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was >>>>>>> no Spin Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -N >>>>>>> <BibDesk_2021-09-10-192932_MacintoshNAP.cpu_resource.diag> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Nathan Paxton >>>>>>> napax...@gmail.com <mailto:napax...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's >>>>>>> too dark to read. >>>>>>> —Mark Twain >>>>>>> (It's kind of cramped, too.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have uploaded a test version to >>>>>>>> <https://bibdesk.sourceforge.io/BibDesk.dmg >>>>>>>> <https://bibdesk.sourceforge.io/BibDesk.dmg>>. Perhaps you can >>>>>>>> download it and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit >>>>>>>> more efficiently. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Christiaan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R. <klas...@rowan.edu >>>>>>>>> <mailto:klas...@rowan.edu>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the >>>>>>>>> entries—I assume by “groups” you mean those created by that. I >>>>>>>>> opened the .bib file in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from >>>>>>>>> every entry, and now it opens. It takes, literally, 2 minutes to >>>>>>>>> open (53 entries) and overall navigation in the system seems a bit >>>>>>>>> sluggish, but I can see all the entries. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the >>>>>>>>> keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM >>>>>>>>> and CPU ramp up. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his) >>>>>>>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy >>>>>>>>> Rowan University >>>>>>>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road >>>>>>>>> Glassboro, NJ 08028 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> SCI 130E >>>>>>>>> 856-256-4391 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users >>>>>>>>>> <bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of >>>>>>>>>> groups. >>>>>>>>>> Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default >>>>>>>>>> bib file it hangs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty >>>>>>>>>> file first, and then tried the default bib file. >>>>>>>>>> I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the >>>>>>>>>>> group table? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Christiaan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout >>>>>>>>>>>> the group table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would >>>>>>>>>>>> be efficient, we’re not doing anything really complicated and >>>>>>>>>>>> expensive for this particular view. Do you have a really large >>>>>>>>>>>> number groups? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Christiaan >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users >>>>>>>>>>>>> <bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that help any? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cmhof...@gmail.com <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea what could give a problem. I cannot say anything without >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing a sample from someone who has this problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christiaan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R. <klas...@rowan.edu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:klas...@rowan.edu>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to do anything is horrible. So, basically, I can’t do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any work with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and rising.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rowan University >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glassboro, NJ 08028 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCI 130E >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 856-256-4391 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cmhof...@gmail.com <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strange, I am having no problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you could make a Sample of BiBdesk using Activity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monitor, and send it to me off list? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christiaan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 18:41, Jodi Schneider >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jschnei...@pobox.com <mailto:jschnei...@pobox.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I updated. My default is an empty library (0 references) so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BibDesk does open for me. However, on trying to open RIS and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BibTeX files, I too get Mac's spinning beach ball. (Mac >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10.14.6 if that is has an impact.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jan David Hauck via >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bibdesk-users <bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just updated, but now when I open BibDesk I get the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spinning beach ball :( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Christiaan Hofman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cmhof...@gmail.com <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new version of BibDesk, version 1.8.4, is now available. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We thank the users who have contributed to BibDesk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development by sharing their experiences with BibDesk, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testing nightly builds. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This release can be obtained by selecting "check for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updates" in the "BibDesk" menu, visiting the Sourceforge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloads page at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or by visiting the BibDesk home page at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or by following the link below, which will begin immediate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those interested follow the full release notes for this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release notes for BibDesk version 1.8.4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Features >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Allow deleting bookmarks by dragging to the trash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * New preference to hide group highlights >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Allow changing the fields to filter with in the quick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Contextual menu when searching file content >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Restore favicon in browser >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Save file links using modern bookmark data >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bugs Fixed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Improve UI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Avoid some macro strings editing problems in rare >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situations >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Prevent crasher after closing a document containing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macros >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix moving multiple bookmarks by dragging >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix undo of moving bookmarks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix toggle for detail editor side bar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix adding publications from clipboard when the data >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starts with a URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Improve table UIs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Improve animation of control views >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Improve efficiency of UI updating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix Journal field from RIS import >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix Quick Look updates when selection changes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fix opening files in some cases >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Try not to collapse last column in main table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <sample.txt> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <sample2.txt>_______________________________________________
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