Did anyone try the latest test version at 
<https://bibdesk.sourceforge.io/BibDesk.dmg 
<https://bibdesk.sourceforge.io/BibDesk.dmg>>? It could give me some idea about 
what the problems and how to possibly fix it.

Christiaan

> On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:51, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It’s linked to on the web site.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:29, Nathan Paxton <napax...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:napax...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Blergh. If that’s the case, where can I download 1.8.2, which did work, 
>> until I’m ready to go to OS 11?
>> 
>> -Nathan Paxton
>> 
>> Please excuse misspelling and autocorrect artifacts as this is "Sent from my 
>> iPhone"
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 05:04, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, it really does seem to be a problem with older systems. That makes it 
>>> very hard to fix, as I cannot see it myself, and the problem is deep inside 
>>> Apple’s very basic code, so that sounds like a system bug.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 03:14, Gilberto C <ah.gilbert...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:ah.gilbert...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS 
>>>> Big Sur (11.5.2)?
>>>> —G
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton <napax...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:napax...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, and I get 
>>>>> ehet the rainbow beach ball of death.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was no Spin 
>>>>> Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -N
>>>>> <BibDesk_2021-09-10-192932_MacintoshNAP.cpu_resource.diag>
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Nathan Paxton
>>>>> napax...@gmail.com <mailto:napax...@gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
>>>>> dark to read.
>>>>>   —Mark Twain
>>>>> (It's kind of cramped, too.)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have uploaded a test version to 
>>>>>> <https://bibdesk.sourceforge.io/BibDesk.dmg 
>>>>>> <https://bibdesk.sourceforge.io/BibDesk.dmg>>. Perhaps you can download 
>>>>>> it and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit more 
>>>>>> efficiently.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R. <klas...@rowan.edu 
>>>>>>> <mailto:klas...@rowan.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the 
>>>>>>> entries—I assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I opened 
>>>>>>> the .bib file in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, 
>>>>>>> and now it opens.  It takes, literally, 2 minutes to open (53 entries) 
>>>>>>> and overall navigation in the system seems a bit sluggish, but I can 
>>>>>>> see all the entries.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the 
>>>>>>> keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and 
>>>>>>> CPU ramp up.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
>>>>>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy
>>>>>>> Rowan University
>>>>>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road
>>>>>>> Glassboro, NJ  08028
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SCI 130E
>>>>>>> 856-256-4391
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>>>>>>>> <bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of 
>>>>>>>> groups.  
>>>>>>>> Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib 
>>>>>>>> file it hangs.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty 
>>>>>>>> file first, and then tried the default bib file. 
>>>>>>>> I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue?  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the 
>>>>>>>>> group table?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout 
>>>>>>>>>> the group table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be 
>>>>>>>>>> efficient, we’re not doing anything really complicated and expensive 
>>>>>>>>>> for this particular view. Do you have a really large number groups?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>>>>>>>>>>> <bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Does that help any? 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <cmhof...@gmail.com <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no 
>>>>>>>>>>>> idea what could give a problem. I cannot say anything without 
>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing a sample from someone who has this problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R. <klas...@rowan.edu 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:klas...@rowan.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to do anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and rising.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rowan University
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glassboro, NJ  08028
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCI 130E
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 856-256-4391
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cmhof...@gmail.com <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strange, I am having no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you could make a Sample of BiBdesk using Activity 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monitor, and send it to me off list?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 18:41, Jodi Schneider <jschnei...@pobox.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jschnei...@pobox.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I updated. My default is an empty library (0 references) so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BibDesk does open for me. However, on trying to open RIS and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BibTeX files, I too get Mac's spinning beach ball. (Mac 10.14.6 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if that is has an impact.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jan David Hauck via 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bibdesk-users <bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just updated, but now when I open BibDesk I get the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spinning beach ball :(  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Christiaan Hofman 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cmhof...@gmail.com <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a new 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of BibDesk, version 1.8.4, is now available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We thank the users who have contributed to BibDesk development 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by sharing their experiences with BibDesk, and testing nightly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> builds. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This release can be obtained by selecting "check for updates" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the "BibDesk" menu, visiting the Sourceforge downloads page 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or by visiting the BibDesk home page at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or by following the link below, which will begin immediate 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those interested follow the full release notes for this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release notes for BibDesk version 1.8.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Allow deleting bookmarks by dragging to the trash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  New preference to hide group highlights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Allow changing the fields to filter with in the quick 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Contextual menu when searching file content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Restore favicon in browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Save file links using modern bookmark data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bugs Fixed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Improve UI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Avoid some macro strings editing problems in rare 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Prevent crasher after closing a document containing macros
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix moving multiple bookmarks by dragging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix undo of moving bookmarks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix toggle for detail editor side bar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix adding publications from clipboard when the data 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starts with a URL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Improve table UIs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Improve animation of control views
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Improve efficiency of UI updating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix Journal field from RIS import
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix Quick Look updates when selection changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix opening files in some cases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Try not to collapse last column in main table
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <sample.txt>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <sample2.txt>_______________________________________________

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