Obey Laws? What?  Why obey Laws when they are not enforced?!  Maybe I've
been naive all these years, but it seems lately (last couple of years) I do
not see as many motorists stopped by police as I did when I was younger.  It
used to be one would run a serious chance of getting pulled over by the
police when travelling 50+mph in a 35 mph zone.  Now, if your not going
50mph in a 35 zone you're going to slow.  It used to be running a yellow to
make a light was risky. Now it seem standard practice that the first 5
seconds of a red is Ok to make it through an intersection.  

Example: Last week I was driving my car on South Concourse Drive (the road
with a bike lane right in front of the Mann Music Center).  The speed limit
is 25mph.  I was pleasantly speeding going 30-35mph.  This was too slow for
the cars behind me.  Two cars over a <1 mile road passed me on the right
side on a one lane road.  Both had to put two wheels in the grass and two
wheels in a bike lane to accomplish their pass.  Thankfully there were no
bikes in the bike lane.  It seems that this type of driving is common place
today.  The drivers do not seem to have any fear of being stopped by police.
And I wouldn't either.  I see this type of stuff all the time on my bike
(3,000+ bike commuting miles per year and 3,000+ riding miles per year) and
never see a police car to enforce traffic laws.  Or even worse I see the
police and either 1) they don't care, or 2) they are the ones running a
yellow/red light, etc.

So again I ask, why would anyone care what the laws are? Furthermore, even
if one does know the laws, why would they feel the need to obey them?

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Wisdom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cyclists rights


On Monday, May 6, 2002, at 06:53 PM, Luisa Lassova wrote:

> As for stop-signs, I haven't heard of any law enforcement for cyclists. 
> Here in Center City Philadelphia, there is a stop-sign at virtually every 
> corner and I usually slow down, but if I had to actually stop and put my 
> foot on the floor, that would be a major nuisance.

        I haven't decided on the whole bikes should obey all the same laws
as 
cars issue yet, but I'm confused by the argument above. Isn't it just as 
much of a nuisance for cars to come to a full and complete stop at every 
intersection. I know I expect it of them, even if i only rarely get it.

        Robert

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