At 02:28 PM 07/23/2003 -0400, Bob Paolino wrote:
Right on red in general is a reasonable thing, [snip]

You make some good points, Bob, but the one above assumes that one actually
stops first, which is often not the case. a driver looking left for a break
in traffic (while rolling through the stop sign/light) is way too common a
cause of collisions between cars and peds or bikes. If they're not allowed
to make a right at all, then they won't be so anxious to find a break in
traffic (and even if they make an illegal right, they *might* be more
likely to stop first-even if they only stop to scan for police, they're
more likely to see bikes & peds).

and yes, idling engines pollute, but that's the same rationale for
expanding the capacity of roads to accomodate motor vehicle driver demand
at peak travel times, usually at the expense of all other modes of travel.

chuck

Chuck Strawser
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Bicycle Federation of Wisconsin
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