What's a table top and why should we be supporting it?  What are the
objections to it?  Thanks 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Coleman
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Michael Rewey; Marsha; Olson, Judy
Subject: [Bikies] Livingston Rebuild & Isthmus Bike Path, No tabletop
planned

For a couple of years there has been on-again off-again discussion of
putting in table tops in the Isthmus Path cross streets to slow traffic
and to give cyclists a smoother crossing of the streets.  Unfortunately
now that there is a rebuild of Livingston St. 
the city staff are not proposing to do so. Please contact the regulars
at the city to get them to do the right thing here.  The email
discussion below would suggest that if city staff were really taking
cycling seriously they could incorporate a table top in Livingston St.

There is a Board of Public Works meeting Wed. 4:30, 103A City-County
Bldg. (see below) to discuss the Livingston rebuild. Try to make it.
john



>Livingston St. reconstruction design plans will be reviewed at the 
>Board of Public Works tomorrow, Wednesday, at 4:30, in Room 103A of 
>the City County Building.  They plans do include back in angle 
>parking and a bump-out at the bike path, but no table top 
>design.  Can you please share with MarqNA?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Judy
>
>
>----------
>From: Bachmann, Christy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:39 AM
>To: Phillips, Rob; Yoerger, Glen
>Cc: Wolfe, James; Judy Olson; McCormick, Dan
>Subject: RE: willy st. etc. reconstruction
>
>The plans will be presented to the Board of Public Works tomorrow 
>night and we will not propose a tabletop at this location.
>
>
>----------
>From: Phillips, Rob
>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:54 PM
>To: Yoerger, Glen; Bachmann, Christy
>Cc: Wolfe, James; 'Judy Olson'; McCormick, Dan
>Subject: RE: willy st. etc. reconstruction
>I am not sure that I like the table top here with the grades that we 
>are dealing with.  I also prefer the 6 inch curb with a curb type 
>ramp for the bike path with the hope that it better discourages 
>vehicular traffic on the bike path.
>
>If there is a strong need for the table top we can try to work 
>through these problems but these are my thoughts.
>
>
>
>----------
>From: Yoerger, Glen
>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:12 PM
>To: Bachmann, Christy
>Cc: Wolfe, James; Phillips, Rob; 'Judy Olson'; McCormick, Dan
>Subject: RE: willy st. etc. reconstruction
>Attached is our preliminary design for Livingston Street.  TE 
>approved the angled parking and the bumpout at the bike path.  We 
>weren't aware of a requirement to tabletop the crossing but it could 
>be added if necessary.
>
>
>----------
>From: Bachmann, Christy
>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:03 PM
>To: Phillips, Rob
>Cc: Yoerger, Glen; Wolfe, James
>Subject: RE: willy st. etc. reconstruction
>Rob, was there ever discussion of tabletopping Livingston at the 
>Isthmus bike path as part of the nearby redevelopment?  Also, will 
>TE determine if angle parking will be allowed?
>
>
>----------
>From: Olson, Judy
>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:50 PM
>To: John Coleman; Bachmann, Christy
>Cc: Chuck Strawser; Michael Rewey
>Subject: RE: willy st. etc. reconstruction
>Christy,
>
>I am forwarding John Coleman's question to you concerning 
>reconstruction of s. Livingston St.  I feel that it is probably too 
>early for detailed plans, but clearly there is great interest in those
plans.
>
>John,
>
>I did forward Christy's e-mail to Scott Lewis also.
>
>Judy
>
>
>----------
>From: John Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Sun 1/14/2007 9:13 PM
>To: Olson, Judy
>Cc: Chuck Strawser; Michael Rewey
>Subject: Re: willy st. etc. reconstruction
>judy,
>      i see in christy's email (see underlined section) that 
> Livingston from willy to the bike path is scheduled for 
> reconstruction. How does this fit in with the scott lewis project 
> and his desire for angled parking.  I haven't seen any final plans 
> for the street in that block and when i brought it up with scott 
> last November he said it would be worked out later.  In particular 
> there was discussion of having a narrowing of the street and a 
> speed table at the bike path so that the path did not dip tot he 
> level of the street but rather the street rose to the level of the
path.
>      Have I missed something related to this?  I'd like to get hold 
> of the plan for Livingston if there is one. If there isn't yet a 
> plan, I'd be interested in putting in my 2 cents worth concerning 
> Livingston and the bike path.
>thanks,
>john
>
>p.s. i cc'd chuck and mike since they have had some interest in 
>Livingston and bikes.
>
>At 10:17 AM 1/14/2007, you wrote:
>
>From: Bachmann, Christy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:47 PM
>To: Judy Olson
>Subject: RE: willy street
>
>Willy Street from Blount to Thornton is scheduled for resurfacing 
>(not reconstruction) in 2009.  The work will include the replacement 
>of sanitary sewer and possibly some storm and water main. Work on 
>side streets will probably be limited. Design would not take place 
>until late 2008 or early 2009.  Occasionally we underground but have 
>only done so on reconstructions.  The last few projects I have been 
>involved with were funded with TIFF or paid by the adjacent property 
>owners, seems MG&E funds are harder to come by.
>
>We do have Livingston from Willy Street north to the bike path 
>scheduled for reconstruction in 2007.  I will be contacting MG&E to 
>see if extending the limits northerly to E. Main makes sense.
>
>Jennifer Street from Wily Street to Livingston is scheduled for 
>reconstruction in 2008.
>
>Let me know if there are any further questions, Christy.


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