It is also really nice to have bike lanes on East Wash east of Fair Oaks/Wright to Thierer. Separate bike paths, as suggested by Larry Nelson for University Avenue, are not good ideas. The lack of a direct bike route from downtown to Middleton, I'm certain, inhibits bicycling from there. "All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it." - Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859) French historian Cost of U.S. War and Occupation of Iraq $456,252,195,907
>>> "Ross, Arthur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/6/2007 10:24 AM >>> I see bikes on E Washington Ave all the time. In fact, I have had several requests to extend the bike lanes on E Washington Ave all the way to the Capitol. In conversation, I have had several people tell me how much they like the bike lanes on E Wash and that they feel more comfortable on E Wash now than on Johnson and Gorham. Arthur Arthur Ross, Pedestrian-Bicycle Coordinator City of Madison Traffic Engineering Division 215 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd, Suite 100 PO Box 2986 Madison, WI 53701-2986 608/266-6225 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nelson, Larry Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:03 AM To: Troy Thiel; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Cc: Dryer, David; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Phillips, Rob; Clear, Mark Subject: RE: [Bikies] Top 10 list continued There is going to be an interesting discussion, which Mr. Thiel raised in a recent message, during the design phase of University Avenue. Should the bike lanes be on the street or should there be a separate path as there is today? Is there room for both? I suspect to achieve a goal of making bike transportation more attractive, we will have a separate path along the north side of the right of way. We went through considerable expense to install bike lanes on East Washington but I don't believe we have had much usage. And, yes, the existing path through the "Baker Street Gulch" will require a significant effort to provide a stable soil structure beneath it. The current fill, which was added for the path, has failed in the past. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Troy Thiel Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bikies] Top 10 list continued Robbie, Clearly it's not the ideal design but it is the official path and I'll use report a problem from now on. Unfortunately, waiting 5 plus years ain't going to make it safer today, and that's what we need. There are dozens of people who use it daily. Alder Clear has already responded and is going to follow up on, which is greatly appreciated. The Old Middleton route is also the official route and it's in dangerous condition...should cyclists just jump in cars since there is no ideal route that way? Fixing/maintaining what we have is just as important as long term planning that "might" happen. Et tous Kendall Avenue from the 2400 to the 2100 Block? Robbie Webber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Regarding Troy's comments about the path on University Ave east of Allen Blvd: See the recent discussion on this list, and please note that the "Report a Problem" link on the city's web site seems to work pretty well for getting some of these bike lane/street/path problems fixed. That path - Spring Harbor (?) to Allen Blvd - would never be built today. It is a dangerous "side path" that puts you in a position to be hit by a turning car. University Ave will be reconstructed within the next 5 years, and bike lanes will be added to the main roadway. Until then, the b est way to keep the current facilities safe is to report problems.
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