thanks eric. good point- i did purchase my light online and on-sale, so that might have been serendipitous loss leader to my benefit. this particular light runs 3 leds on four aa batteries. i dont spend anywhere near 20 bucks on batteries and i do ride at night quite alot, all year.
regardless- the actual price charged is market based, and is not reflective of manufactured costs, and typically sale prices are to clear out a end of year product. my point is that at the loss leader price was reasonable, and it is achievable financially for someone of limited means. and especially to a group which $10 = three drinks. reflective tape is also an *inexpensive* idea which could be kept under ten bucks- and a good one at that. happy thanksgiving all- ride safe tonight. ed- On Nov 21, 2007 10:54 AM, Eric Westhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear e.hay, > > Your description of cost has not been my experience. Of course if > bicycles and pedestrians cannot see each other, cost IS IRRELEVANT. But the > cost is not negligible these days. Possibly you might find a red tail > light for $10.00 someplace, but in the past year my Catye white light cost > over thirty. The bike shop salesperson said it was bright enough and the > one he personally used. It cost over $30.00 and has a very small beam > running on three AAA batteries. The intensity drops quickly. So, if a > person rides much at night, a years supply of batteries is well over > $20.00. Between the two lights five batteries are used. And then the > expensive Catye has an electronic momentary switch which is not reliable. I > examined the container for a "guarantee" statement and found none---so I > have to live with that flaw, also. > > Again, if one cannot see, they need light. But the cost is $60.00 without > tax and NOT $10.00. If something is to be handed out--it should be > reflecting tape and reflectors--which are also expensive. > > EW > > "e.hay" wrote: > > maybe when you register your bike with the city - the reg fee could cover > a freebee light? getting some at cost from planet bike or something might be > an option. > > although cost is always presented as an issue- i bought a nite rider 3 led > light for $10 a few years back. it's no back county light for sure- but city > wise- it gets the job done. > students spend more than $10 on thursday night drinks- > > On Nov 20, 2007 9:30 PM, s meiers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Getting more cyclists to have lights at night is a prime concern of mine > > and I have worked with the University bike people the last few years to > > increase usage. We have concentrated on that audience because most night > > time crashes are downtown and involve cyclists in their 20s. In the past a > > local pizza company has delivered flyers about safe night time riding with a > > coupon for a lite at local shops- with minimal results. We did this in late > > September/ early October when it is starting to get dark earlier. But as a > > bike shop owner told me student run out of $ pretty quickly and typically > > don't go into bike stores that time of year. We need to do our efforts when > > students return and Mom and Dad have their credit card handy. We need to > > think of different ways of reaching this audience. My initial idea would be > > to get an article in the State Journal and/ or something on the 6 o'clock > > news. But 20 somethings don't read the WSJ or watch the 6 o'clock news. If > > anyone has unique ideas for this aging boomer to reach younger people please > > share them. > > *"Schimpff, Jeff A - DNR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > Bob's observation is universal and prompts a quick tale from last > > night. Heading from downtown to the SW Path after 5:00 (quite dark), I > > stopped on Dayton at Broom for traffic. An unlit cyclist came along on > > Broom (a one-way street) within a few feet of me. and I called out with a > > friendly reminder as I usually do, "You need to get a light, sir!" Instead > > of responding the typical, "OK," or "I know." or with silence, he let out a > > rude "F Y." I soon headed west across Broom while he continued toward > > Johnson. I then heard a loud brake screech and horn honk, and turned back > > to see that this guy had nearly been creamed by a car that somehow got onto > > Broom heading the wrong way - and apparently couldn't see this unlit cyclist > > any better than I could when he passed by me....Then on the SW Path > > there was the usual parade of unlit cyclists, appearing to be nearly half of > > all riders.All of which begs the question of how can the City be more > > pre-emptive about lights at night. I suggest a short program of educational > > stops, followed up by a program of ticketing, focused on the bike paths and > > streets with high bike traffic and bike lanes. Our fellow cyclists endanger > > far more people than themselves."Swinging in the other direction, you > > have the cyclist who ignores every traffic law, rides down the sidewalk, > > then he goes through the crosswalk, and if a motorist doesn't see him he > > flips him off. Then he jumps on the road in the wrong direction and he > > doesn't have lights on at night." > > P* Jeff Schimpff* > > Bureau of Science Services > > Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources > > "Bus, Bike, Walk or Carpool to Work for Clean Air for Kids" > > ( ()* phone:* (608) 267- 7853 > > (()* fax:* (608) 267-5231 > > (+ )* e-mail:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > > Behalf Of *Meiers, Steve > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:36 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* [Bikies] article > > > > http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=687001 Hopefully, this is an > > interview with a person, formerly from Wisconsin, who wrote a book about the > > law and bicycling. If this link doesn't work I'll go to Plan BSteve > > MeiersSafety educator(608) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bikies mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies > > > > > > > > Steve Meiers > > 608 241-3460158 Dixon StMadison, WI 53704 > > ------------------------------ > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See > > how. <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51732/*http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bikies mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies > > > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies > >
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