I've thought about it a lot actually. Of course the weight distribution and braking matters, but most riders don't shift their weight forward on every corner. The big difference in ice vs. dry pavement is the larger drop in sliding friction on ice once a skid starts. On dry pavement you can actually slide your front tire through a turn and stay upright, as the friction just before slide is only a little higher than the friction while sliding. On ice the friction drop is much larger, so once the front tire starts to slide it's gone. The reason studs on both is not the same as summer is that with wet or dry pavement the friction is nearly constant at each point on the road surface, while with a stud on ice you get big variations depending on the ice at the point of contact and where the stud is. So you could still bust loose and wash out. If you only have studs on front the back tire will go first.

But like I said, try both and see which you like best, for your riding style and your typical conditions. I ride fast, don't coast on ice, and my back wheel doesn't slide out. But if I rode more ice I'd probably get rears. I just think it's a matter of personal preference, not one is inherently better.
-Doug Adler



Frank Hassler wrote:

On Feb 29, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Doug Adler wrote:

Most winter cyclists I know haven't tried only front.:-) To me having studs front and rear can be more dangerous if you take a corner too fast. If you have the same amount of traction front and rear the front washes out first, while the rear slide I can deal with.


Think about this a second, does this logic carry through to the summer riding as well? Its the same basic physics. Which tire looses traction first depends on your weight distribution on the bike and the friction between each tire and the ground.... and how much brake you grab per wheel.

If you tend to ride slowly and cautiously get both, cause the rear is more likely to slide out when you go slow. But if you have the occasional slick ice along with pavement and hardpack, just front will probably suffice, and you'll get lots less drag on the pavement because most of your weight is over the back.


I like to ride quickly and aggressively (at least when I have the energy to do so) so I have studs front and rear so I don't NEED to ride slowly and cautiously. Or you could just ride however and continue riding however. There is extra rolling resistance with studded tires, but its more then made up for when you don't have to coast over every patch of ice you hit because when you pedal your rear wheel slides out from under you. Also, stopping can be very dangerous if you can't get any traction with your rear tire. I think Peter White brings up some good points in his discussion of the subject.

Frank Hassler
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