Yeah, I just saw that. But it's on the inbound side, so wouldn't have
anything to do with the lane closures.

Can't quite figure out where the "500 block of John Nolen" is Google Maps
has it just south of the causeway - before you get to Lakeside.


Robbie Webber
Transportation Policy Analyst
State Smart Transportation Initiative
www.ssti.us
608-263-9984 (o)
608-225-0002 (c)
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On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM, rick <[email protected]> wrote:

>  ruh-roh ....
>
>
> http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/crime_and_courts/multi-vehicle-crash-blocking-traffic-on-john-nolen-drive/article_f2e843b8-9523-11e1-b284-001a4bcf887a.html?sourcetrack=moreArticle
>
>
> On 5/1/2012 5:34 PM, Grant Foster wrote:
>
>  Definitely a horrible bike crossing now.
>
> I think that by eliminating the lane between broom and north shore (but
> leaving it in for the stretch south of north shore) they can switch the
> signals on the right turn from north shore onto southbound nolen. Since
> there won't be any through-traffic southbound in that lane, right turning
> from north shore could happen while nolen through traffic is green. Then
> they could get a red when northshore left-turning (northbound) traffic gets
> a green and bike ped traffic would end up with a green for all three
> segments.
>
> That's a tough one to explain without a picture, but I think it could work.
>
> Grant
>
>  On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Robbie Webber <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  For those that have suggested that there should be some improvements in
>> the crossing of John Nolen Dr at North Shore, here's a little news tidbit:
>>
>>  City to test lane reduction plan on John Nolen Drive
>>
>> http://madisonsouth.channel3000.com/news/transportation/69036-city-test-lane-reduction-plan-john-nolen-drive
>>
>>  However, I don't see how this will help the principal problem there:
>> The need to wait for two lights to cross from the path along North Shore Dr
>> to the John Nolen Path - one to cross the right turn lane, and another to
>> cross John Nolen itself. Of course, many people don't wait anyway, because
>> that is a really annoying way to navigate an intersection. Besides, there
>> isn't nearly enough space to wait on the little island there.
>>
>>  Maybe the article misrepresented what is going to happen. From a
>> satellite view, that third lane extends quite a way onto the causeway.
>> Maybe eliminating the third lane onto the causeway would also allow the
>> total elimination of the flying right-turn from North Shore Dr to John
>> Nolen?
>>
>>
>>  Robbie Webber
>> Transportation Policy Analyst
>> State Smart Transportation Initiative
>> www.ssti.us
>> 608-263-9984 (o)
>>  608-225-0002 (c)
>>  [email protected]
>>
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