Details, details ....

On 5/3/2012 11:09 AM, Robbie Webber wrote:
Yeah, I just saw that. But it's on the inbound side, so wouldn't have anything to do with the lane closures.

Can't quite figure out where the "500 block of John Nolen" is Google Maps has it just south of the causeway - before you get to Lakeside.


Robbie Webber
Transportation Policy Analyst
State Smart Transportation Initiative
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On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM, rick <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    ruh-roh ....

    
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/crime_and_courts/multi-vehicle-crash-blocking-traffic-on-john-nolen-drive/article_f2e843b8-9523-11e1-b284-001a4bcf887a.html?sourcetrack=moreArticle



    On 5/1/2012 5:34 PM, Grant Foster wrote:
    Definitely a horrible bike crossing now.
    I think that by eliminating the lane between broom and north
    shore (but leaving it in for the stretch south of north shore)
    they can switch the signals on the right turn from north shore
    onto southbound nolen. Since there won't be any through-traffic
    southbound in that lane, right turning from north shore could
    happen while nolen through traffic is green. Then they could get
    a red when northshore left-turning (northbound) traffic gets a
    green and bike ped traffic would end up with a green for all
    three segments.
    That's a tough one to explain without a picture, but I think it
    could work.
    Grant
    On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Robbie Webber
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        For those that have suggested that there should be some
        improvements in the crossing of John Nolen Dr at North Shore,
        here's a little news tidbit:

        City to test lane reduction plan on John Nolen Drive
        
http://madisonsouth.channel3000.com/news/transportation/69036-city-test-lane-reduction-plan-john-nolen-drive


        However, I don't see how this will help the principal problem
        there: The need to wait for two lights to cross from the path
        along North Shore Dr to the John Nolen Path - one to cross
        the right turn lane, and another to cross John Nolen itself.
        Of course, many people don't wait anyway, because that is a
        really annoying way to navigate an intersection. Besides,
        there isn't nearly enough space to wait on the little island
        there.

        Maybe the article misrepresented what is going to happen.
        From a satellite view, that third lane extends quite a way
        onto the causeway. Maybe eliminating the third lane onto the
        causeway would also allow the total elimination of the flying
        right-turn from North Shore Dr to John Nolen?


        Robbie Webber
        Transportation Policy Analyst
        State Smart Transportation Initiative
        www.ssti.us <http://www.ssti.us/>
        608-263-9984 (o)
        608-225-0002 (c)
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>


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