True, but they're used to coordinating amongst themselves (aka "dumping it on somebody else's budget"). Again, if you can find just the right person (BIG if), I think you will find them very cooperative, and grateful for some before-the-kvetching positive input. Some are even a tiny bit starved for attention. ;) Start by e-mailing somebody at supervisory level with the old "if this isn't your responsibility, could you point me at the correct person or department?" bit. -------------Patrick Lenon
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:06:18 -0500 Subject: RE: [Bikies] Cannonball Path Beltline Bridge Open From: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected]; [email protected] I think that's a good tact, but I think this might be little more complicated due to it being a county highway and running through the city and town of Madison. Maybe it's more straightforward than I'm imagining, but based on the odd plowing patterns along this stretch, it seems like there are multiple stakeholders involved and some need for coordination. Grant On Oct 25, 2013 9:00 AM, "Patrick Lenon" <[email protected]> wrote: Grant, in my limited experience dealing with municipal services, a little gentle prodding is all it takes. In my case it was getting parks prepped for youth soccer. The folks responsible for such things usually get very little input until something goes bad. The key is to find the right person, inform them that this path will likely be getting a lot more use that it has, and ask very nicely for it to be kept up regularly. All they need is some assurance that if (when) somebody calls their supervisor to find out why they're "wasting MY property tax sweeping that path that nobody ever uses," they can cite specific requests from users. -------------Patrick Lenon Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:53:07 -0500 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bikies] Cannonball Path Beltline Bridge Open I'm game. Would like some direction from anyone more familiar with the system who has experience making something like this happen. I really don't have a good understanding of how this sort of thing happens. Grant On Oct 25, 2013 8:38 AM, "Larry D. Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote: We shall need to work out a procedure for street sweeping the bike path between the trailhead and Wingra Drive over the next six months. That's an easier project than putting a bridge over the Beltline Highway. Is there someone on this listserv that wants to take up this task and work with Dane County? Larry Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Grant Foster <[email protected]> wrote: You're correct. Path ends at the north end of the bridge right next to Culvers. Plan is to continue alongside the rail lines, along the edge of the Arboretum to Fish Hatchery and the city is still working on securing the agreements to make this happen, as I understand it. I'm interested to know what the idea is from there. The (much improved) bike lane on Fish Hatchery is still not inviting and I can't imagine casual users feeling comfortable using it to get downtown. It's consistently filled with debris (especially glass) and car traffic moves at a steady 40 mph. Using the wide sidewalk along the east side of the road might be an option for some, but should really be widened and striped if this is the intent. It's used heavily by pedestrians and students and doesn't really accommodate bike through-traffic as it is right now. Unless/until this is figured out, I doubt we'll capitalize on the promise of this Southside/Downtown connection. Grant On Oct 24, 2013 4:35 PM, "Robert F. Nagel" <[email protected]> wrote: ok, so if you're going to the northeast from the southwest, you can pick up a spur at the Cap City Trail which will take you to the bridge, then you take the bridge and end up on the frontage road near ward brodt? i'm not complaining, just clarifying, is there a trail from the northeast end of the bridge? if not, when? and where will that trail take you to when it's done? thanks. --- Robert F. Nagel, AttorneyLaw Offices of Robert Nagel [email protected] www.nagel-law.com Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001 Madison, WI 53703 608-255-1501 office 608-255-1504 fax 608-438-9501 cell On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Ross, Arthur <[email protected]> wrote: See below and http://www.cityofmadison.com/bikemadison/planning/modal/CannonballBridgeOverBeltline.cfm CANNONBALL PATH BRIDGE OVER BELTLINE OPENS! The long-awaited Cannonball Path Phase 3 bridge over Beltline Highway, just west of Fish Hatchery Road is open for use as of October 24. This new, four-span arched bridge carries bicyclists and pedestrians over the Beltline and both the north and south frontage roads, providing a safe (and fun!) alternative to the Fish Hatchery Road interchange. The bridge is also the key segment of the overall Cannonball Path project, which consists of more than four miles of paved shared-use (bicycle and pedestrian) path connecting neighborhoods in Fitchburg and Madison south of the Beltline with central Madison. Currently over 1.6 miles of path is paved, beginning at the Capital City Trail in Fitchburg and extending to the north Beltline frontage road. Contracts are in place and work has begun on the remaining length, including a new bridge over McKee Road (CTH PD). When completed next year the path will connect to the Military Ridge State Trail, Capital City Trail, Badger Trail and the Southwest path. Plans are being developed for the northward extension to Fish Hatchery Road and ultimately to the Wingra Path. Many have asked about a ribbon cutting. Nothing was planned for this year because of the uncertainty about the opening date and the lateness of the season. Next year we will be able to hold a big celebration, encompassing the full length of the project and recognizing the communities, governmental agencies, neighborhoods, citizens and builders who have contributed to this great new addition to the metro area’s bike and pedestrian network. 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