I ride through there a lot. It's a good way to get out of town on a bike (Vernon to Leo, secret bike path to Buckeye). When I read the article, I imagined the bike was going eastbound and the westbound car probably turned left to eat some saturated fat at Culver's.s
The report is "timed" 6:46 p.m., so unless the report was submitted a while after the crash, it happened at night. That is a scary intersection in that 95-98% of the traffic is going straight on CGR, except for turns into Lum Trail for Culver's. Riding through there, I ALWAYS assume the motorist is NOT going to see me, and proceed accordingly. (Since the bike path was extended east between Dempsey and CGR--and there is the boulevard to wait on if you're crossing CGR from the bike path--the city has designated about six (maybe four?) feet as a bike lane, which is usually good enough, but in the winter frozen slush usually takes up most of the lane.) On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Robbie Webber <[email protected]>wrote: > I took a look at where this happened. It's part professional interest and > part detective work to see if I can guess what each party was doing when > the crash occurred. Unfortunately, there is rarely any follow-up - i.e. > news reports - on non-fatal crashes, so I often don't get to check my > suppositions. > > Based on > location<https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Lumbermans+Trail+and+Cottage+Grove+Rd,+Madison,+WI&hl=en&ll=43.084083,-89.306928&spn=0.008157,0.016512&sll=43.077289,-89.297347&sspn=0.032757,0.066047&t=h&hnear=Cottage+Grove+Rd+%26+Lumbermans+Trail,+Madison,+Dane,+Wisconsin&z=17>and > the scant information in the news story, I'm going to guess: > > 1. The bicyclist had been on the Cap City Trail (aka Isthmus Path) just > prior to the crash. The path ends at Cottage Grove Rd, I think. It's been a > couple years since I've been on that section, so maybe it's been extended > farther than what is portrayed on Google Maps, but the City map seems to > show the same thing. (Although since they are using Google Maps, recent > extensions could be missing from both sources.) > > 2. He wasn't actually on Cottage Grove Rd. He was on the sidewalk. If a > bicyclist just left the path and wanted to continue eastbound, many would > choose the sidewalk over trying to cross CGR with no light where the path > ends. > > 3. He wasn't actually on the sidewalk at that moment, he was trying to > cross CGR to Lumberman Trail. There is a light there - the first one east > of the end of the trail - and Luberman provides a connection to another > neighborhood path at the end. > > 4. The bicyclist was headed home to the neighborhood south of CGR. > > 5. The bicyclist was in the crosswalk when hit. The news report says the > driver hit the bicyclist while "driving onto Lumberman," and I'm guessing > she didn't look for anyone in the crosswalk before making the turn. And I > can't say I'm surprised. It's not a very bike-ped friendly area, so there > probably aren't many people using that crosswalk. > > > That's just my guess. And that's all it is - a guess, albeit one that is > informed by knowledge of average bicyclist and driver behavior. > > Now, if the bicyclist was going the other way - headed into town - then > there's a completely different scenario, but I'm betting he was coming from > town. > > Oh, and I'm amused that the police > report<http://www.cityofmadison.com/police/newsroom/incidentreports/incident.cfm?id=15143>says > he was "peddling on Cottage Grove Rd." I'm assuming he wasn't selling > anything. > > Robbie Webber > Transportation Policy Analyst > State Smart Transportation Initiative > www.ssti.us > 608-263-9984 (o) > 608-225-0002 (c) > [email protected] > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, rick <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> http://www.channel3000.com/news/bicyclist-collides-with-car/-/1648/24390736/-/ca4iue/-/index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > -- "If we continue to consume the world until there's no more to consume, then there's going to come a day, sure as hell, when our children or their children or their children's children are going to look back on us--on you and me--and say to themselves, 'My God, what kind of monsters were these people?'" --Daniel Quinn
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