The cyclist would have had to have been headed eastbound if he was crossing Lumbermans (westbound on CGR has you crossing Atlas).
He could have been travelling on the sidewalk (a lot of cyclists do this here), in the bike lane (less likely since it is not maintained in the winter and is in very bad condition right now), or in a main traffic lane. If he didn't run a red, then either the car ran a red coming from Atlas (not likely), or it was a right hook with the car going into Culver's (likely) or it was a westbound car on CGR turning left onto Lumbermans (also likely). There's a lot of cars here and they move fast. There are also a lot of turning cars east and west bound CGR onto Lumbermans and onto Atlas which makes for a lot of distractions and quick decisions. Grant On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Robbie Webber <[email protected]>wrote: > I took a look at where this happened. It's part professional interest and > part detective work to see if I can guess what each party was doing when > the crash occurred. Unfortunately, there is rarely any follow-up - i.e. > news reports - on non-fatal crashes, so I often don't get to check my > suppositions. > > Based on > location<https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Lumbermans+Trail+and+Cottage+Grove+Rd,+Madison,+WI&hl=en&ll=43.084083,-89.306928&spn=0.008157,0.016512&sll=43.077289,-89.297347&sspn=0.032757,0.066047&t=h&hnear=Cottage+Grove+Rd+%26+Lumbermans+Trail,+Madison,+Dane,+Wisconsin&z=17>and > the scant information in the news story, I'm going to guess: > > 1. The bicyclist had been on the Cap City Trail (aka Isthmus Path) just > prior to the crash. The path ends at Cottage Grove Rd, I think. It's been a > couple years since I've been on that section, so maybe it's been extended > farther than what is portrayed on Google Maps, but the City map seems to > show the same thing. (Although since they are using Google Maps, recent > extensions could be missing from both sources.) > > 2. He wasn't actually on Cottage Grove Rd. He was on the sidewalk. If a > bicyclist just left the path and wanted to continue eastbound, many would > choose the sidewalk over trying to cross CGR with no light where the path > ends. > > 3. He wasn't actually on the sidewalk at that moment, he was trying to > cross CGR to Lumberman Trail. There is a light there - the first one east > of the end of the trail - and Luberman provides a connection to another > neighborhood path at the end. > > 4. The bicyclist was headed home to the neighborhood south of CGR. > > 5. The bicyclist was in the crosswalk when hit. The news report says the > driver hit the bicyclist while "driving onto Lumberman," and I'm guessing > she didn't look for anyone in the crosswalk before making the turn. And I > can't say I'm surprised. It's not a very bike-ped friendly area, so there > probably aren't many people using that crosswalk. > > > That's just my guess. And that's all it is - a guess, albeit one that is > informed by knowledge of average bicyclist and driver behavior. > > Now, if the bicyclist was going the other way - headed into town - then > there's a completely different scenario, but I'm betting he was coming from > town. > > Oh, and I'm amused that the police > report<http://www.cityofmadison.com/police/newsroom/incidentreports/incident.cfm?id=15143>says > he was "peddling on Cottage Grove Rd." I'm assuming he wasn't selling > anything. > > Robbie Webber > Transportation Policy Analyst > State Smart Transportation Initiative > www.ssti.us > 608-263-9984 (o) > 608-225-0002 (c) > [email protected] > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, rick <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> http://www.channel3000.com/news/bicyclist-collides-with-car/-/1648/24390736/-/ca4iue/-/index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > >
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