Yes, my understanding is also that the construction is to make the path diagonal through this intersection (reducing the street crossings from 2 to 1) and to install a signal that is green for path traffic by default. Any cross traffic (MV or bike) will have a red on Charter (both ways). This should be a huge improvement for path traffic. Unfortunately, Harald, I believe the Charter light will be triggered with in-ground sensors, so no button pushing for cars:) Not sure what the final verdict was for bike sensor at this light; hoping the same sensor picks up bikes on Charter and doesn't require pushing a button.
Grant On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM STRAWSER, Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > Robbie – technically, Charter Street is two-way there (for bikes) because > of the contraflow southbound bike lane. It’s only one-way for Motor > Vehicles. > > > > Tim - the traffic volumes on the PATH are not extremely low – they are > actually quite high, especially for a transportation facility that > restricts Motor Vehicles (and so long as we’re counting people). > > http://www.eco-public.com/ParcPublic/?id=4336 > > the daily average for the SW Path just east of Randall is currently over > 3,500 users per day. That’s well into the range of a collector street (I > think any street with a 1000 VPD is considered a collector). > > > > chuck > > > > *From:* tim wong [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:05 PM > *To:* Robbie Webber > *Cc:* STRAWSER, Charles; [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Bikies] SW Path Detour between Mills and Randall > > > > How could these extremely low traffic volumes justify a stop light there? > I thought the city had criteria on these (triggers), and these traffic > counts can't be even 10% of those triggers. > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Robbie Webber <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I think I heard during a presentation at a campus meeting that there will > be a traffic light at the SW Path/Spring/Charter intersection. The light > will default to green for the path, so any traffic on Charter or Spring > will have to wait to get a green. Charter is one-way northbound there, and > there really isn't much (motor vehicle) traffic until you get to the 2-way > part at Johnson St. Spring is similarly pretty quiet unless there is a > football game or other Camp Randall event, so the path carries more traffic > then either cross street. > > > > I'm pretty sure that's what I heard, but I'm sure Chuck or someone else > will let me know if I got it mixed up. Should be interesting when it's done. > > > Robbie Webber > Transportation Policy Analyst > 608-263-9984 (o) > > 608-225-0002 (c) > > [email protected] > > All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of > my employer or any other group with which I am affiliated. > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM, tim wong <[email protected]> wrote: > > It is really crucial that Spring St. not have the right of way where the > bike path crosses it (especially going westbound). The angle is about > 315º, thus essentially requiring a stop rather than a yield. At the same > time I think it would be a good idea to at least at one intersection > (Orchard, I think) to post a ONE WAY sign, so we know which way to look for > cars. I've suggested it before to no avail. > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:06 AM, STRAWSER, Charles < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Construction at the SW Path intersection with Spring St will require > detouring from the SW Path along Dayton St between Mills and Randall. > > See this from the city: > > https://www.cityofmadison.com/news/southwest-commuter-path-detour > > > > the good news is that this construction will result in the SW Path having > priority over the cross streets at its intersection with Spring and Charter > Streets, or at least that’s my understanding of it. I haven’t seen plans. > > > > Chuck Strawser > > Pedestrian & Bicycle Transportation Planner > > Commuter Solutions > > UW-Madison Transportation Services > > > > Visit our University Bicycle Resource Center at Helen C White: > http://transportation.wisc.edu/transportation/bike_annex.aspx > > > > How are we doing? Take our customer satisfaction survey at > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CommSol_CSSurvey > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > > > -- > > "If we continue to consume the world until there's no more to consume, > then there's going to come a day, sure as hell, when our children or their > children or their children's children are going to look back on us--on you > and me--and say to themselves, 'My God, what kind of monsters were these > people?'" > > --Daniel Quinn > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > > > > > -- > > "If we continue to consume the world until there's no more to consume, > then there's going to come a day, sure as hell, when our children or their > children or their children's children are going to look back on us--on you > and me--and say to themselves, 'My God, what kind of monsters were these > people?'" > > --Daniel Quinn > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >
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