Lego, experience hal yang sama disini. Dari semua rekan Indian senior enginer selama beberapa tahun ini, baru 1 yg bener2 "jago" dan bisa diandalkan. Umumnya kalo bener2 di test (dg core skills, aptitude, creativity) bakal ga sesuai expectation. Tapi untungnya umumnya mereka cukup cooperative dalam team (hanya sedikit sekali yg susah diajak bekerja sama). ada lucunya, kalo engineer lg mau on-leave waktu yg lama (1-2 bulan, btw ini lumrah buat mereka krn rata2 mau kembali ke kampung halaman mencari pasangan), outsourcing company akan mereplace dia sementara dg engineer lain (wah, plug-and-play, apa bisa jalan dlm software development (in real life)??). iya sih kendala utama, krn mrk outsourcing jadi tidak ada sense of belonging, mereka tidak bener2 take ownership atas pekerjaannya sehingga spt asal jadi (as long as it works, padahal buggy banget). Jadinya the onus is on the manager buat QA (jadi berat tanggung jawabnya). aku juga pikir direct hiring lebih baik. salam, tony
Lego Haryanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: KOkon, masalahnya buat gue lebih ke point kamu yg nomer dua (outsourcing to a massive team). Masalahnya, whoever manages the team ya bakal perform sebatas bikin outsourcing company-nya happy. Belum tentu mereka act in the best-interest of the client. Most of the time, kita ngga bisa pilih team yg kita inginkan, ... biasanya, outsourcing company punya banyak pekerja yang dialokasikan ke tiap-tiap client. Celaka kalo misalnya team yang buat kita ngga perform. Mereka bilang mereka hire senior engineers, ... jarang banget gue liat Indian (selama ini belum pernah ke negara lain other than India) senior engineer yang meet expectations. Kita udah coba juga nge-filter by interview mereka. Tapi ya emang tetep susah. Interview over the phone is always tough. I'm a white-board guy ... paling suka kalo liat candidate juga udah mulai express his/her thoughts on a white-board. Kita bakal shift gear ke hiring individuals, by the way. Dan mereka bakal answer to us directly. We'll see how it goes. That said, gue masih skeptical tentang outsourcing. Best, -Lego Fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge (Proverbs 1:7) ----- Original Message ---- From: Eko Prasetya To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:34:50 AM Subject: Re: [BinusNet] [diskusi] Lowongan Pekerjaan dan Diskriminasi Ah... outsourcing. >From past experience, outsourcing is good if it's done right. Some personal rules: - Don't outsource just because it's cheaper. Outsource because they can do it better. - Outsource to small group of people, individual is preferred. Not massive team like Infosys. - Language barrier is a big deal. Pernah coba outsource ke China? :) Forward my regards to Nike. KOkon. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
