Combine these two together, and it paints the picture that they don't feel confident they can meet their performance targets with tried-and-tested well-established "rusty" GC techniques. Even with local pointers they are struggling to get past java performance ( which is not bad) so they are rolling stuff back first to go is segmented stacks .. ( Another idea used in singularity , but for singularity the bartok compiler could do this much better) and the stdlib is getting an overhaul. They are well aware that a mark and sweep ( which is under development ) will give much better performance but they feel this is more for big apps not stdlibs and systems programing . Ben
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