Although I'd say your writing style is a bit unfriendly and hard to identify/unclear at the specifics of some of your complaints, I do agree with many of your points.

I really have no idea what format the .txt.gz files are in that are on the current archive. If you unzip them, they are not text tiles.

gmane was able to change the subscription of the previous list to the current list. So, anyone who had a newsreader setup, it should be working again. There is some gap in their archive at the beginning of the archive, as well as last week while the list was transitioned. They requested a link to a single mbox file archive that they can use to restore the list archive in it's entirety. Anyone know how we can get this? The reference to another mailing list below (https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/) has such a link on its archive page. It looks like the same interface so maybe that feature can just be turned on? I'm not sure if it gzips the mbox file on the fly whenever an http request is made or if it has some schedule and may be missing a few of the most recent messages?


Also, regarding the footer, if it can't be changed on a per user basis, I'd vote to get rid of it. Anyone with a reasonably powered brain can go to lists.linuxfoundation.org and find a way to get to the bitcoin-dev mailing list page. The information provided in the footer is also included in the email message headers as well. It's also included in the welcome e-mail when someone subscribes to the list.




Andy Schroder

On 06/27/2015 06:21 PM, grarpamp wrote:
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Frank Flores <[email protected]> wrote:
If you're going to go through the trouble of signing your public emails ...
... then you should also demand that the official archives of your
favorite lists preserve them and their verifiability in the supposedly
canonical reference "mbox" format that they distribute.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Wladimir J. van der Laan
<[email protected]> wrote:
Subject: [bitcoin-dev] New GPG signing key for Bitcoin Core binary releases
http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-June/009045.html
http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-June.txt.gz

As you can clearly see, both the HTML archives and the "mbox"
archives have corrupted this message, it will not verify. Do not
try to say this case is trivial, the problem itself is not trivial,
it's gratuitous, and it applies to all matching messages... text,
code, binary inline... that's dangerous.

Do not try to say this corruption prevents spam, it does not.
Spammers simply subscribe to the list and harvest everything
efficiently in realtime... no webcrawling overhead, no stale
addresses. Obfuscation is futile.

This misfeature needs to be disabled.



On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Warren Togami Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:
archives will be exported
and imported into the new list server
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Andy Schroder <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm not sure if anyone has submitted a request for gmane
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 5:35 PM, s7r <[email protected]> wrote:
Do we have all the archives imported? I run several full nodes and
mirrors for open source projects, if you think it's useful, I can
provide a mirror for the mail list archives.
Yes... these other mirrors, archives, analysis, journalism, and
interfaces are useful. However, as it is now, there are no useful
authoritative sources for them to seed from... they're all corrupt.
And any subscribed realtime sources, though nice, are subject to
downtime, administrative and other unrecoverable gaps. Your mirror
project is a fine idea, you should demand that the pristine historical
sources be made publicly available. Not just for you, but for everyone.



On Wed, Jun 17, 2015, grarpamp wrote:
...
As before, the current "mbox" archives are broken and not useful...

a) They corrupt message data, messages are unverifiable, another example...
    http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-June/009132.html
    http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-June.txt.gz
b) They are missing the minimum set of original headers necessary
    for fully replyable, threadable, sortable, searchable, context
    preserving and direct use by users MUA's in their local environment:
    (Date, From, To, Cc, Subject, Message-ID, In-Reply-To, References)
c) They do not include attachments (patches, signatures, images, crypto,
    data) that are absolutely necessary to the context and archives
    of all lists. Instead they stupidly throw them away to "web links"
    which results not only in uselessness of the so called "mbox"
    version, but in many thousands of needless fetches by archive
    users and indexers. And hours of wasted work attempting to
    postprocess them into usable form.
    Valuable content lost from the "mbox" files this June alone:
     418 attachment.html
     106 attachment.sig
       6 attachment.jpe
       4 attachment.png
       2 attachment.bin
d) There appear to be at least 15 instances of unescaped '^From '
    in the "mbox". Regeneration with current mailman may fix. One such
    case is here:
    
http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014-January/004245.html
    http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014-January.txt.gz



Please fix all the above mentioned issues by providing the full raw
archives in regularly updated [gzip/7z] mbox format. The internet
thanks you :)

Example, compare the "Downloadable version"s here:
http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/
https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/
https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2015-February/006820.html



On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Andy Schroder <[email protected]> wrote:
Regarding message footers and the subject prefix
Yes, they're also corruptive and space wasting clutter, for and by
the clueless :( Both of them should be turned off.
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