> Blocking Vasil was discussed on a similar GitHub PR. Whether or not one 
> agrees or disagrees, the same process is being used. Anyone can NACK and give 
> a reason for Russ as well.

With respect Steve the process for Vasil was keeping Vasil's PR open for up to 
5 months with zero NACKs and two maintainers refusing to engage on why it 
wasn't being merged or what it needed for it to be merged. Followed by a later 
justification for blocking it that they've refused to discuss whether it 
applies to Russ.

The process for Russ was the maintainers deciding privately there was a need 
for a maintainer "who understood our interfaces and modularization efforts 
well" and his PR was merged within 2 days.

If that's the same process to you I don't know what to say. We have different 
perspectives on what constitutes a decision process.

(I'm sure this is clear but just to reiterate in case it isn't none of this is 
a criticism of Russ.)

Thanks
Michael

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------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, May 10th, 2023 at 17:36, Steve Lee <steven.j....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Blocking Vasil was discussed on a similar GitHub PR. Whether or not one 
> agrees or disagrees, the same process is being used. Anyone can NACK and give 
> a reason for Russ as well.
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 8:55 AM Michael Folkson 
> <michaelfolk...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve
>>
>>> Isn't this as simple as anyone (in particular Core project contributors) 
>>> can express their view in this 
>>> PR?https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604
>>
>> Nope. The extent to which the rationale for blocking Vasil as a maintainer 
>> applies or doesn't apply to ryanofsky (or future potential maintainers) 
>> isn't discussed. From now on the precedent is proposed maintainers can be 
>> blocked for unknown and/or potentially inconsistent reasons by the existing 
>> maintainers.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Michael
>>
>> --
>> Michael Folkson
>> Email: michaelfolkson at [protonmail.com](http://protonmail.com/)
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>>
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>>
>> ------- Original Message -------
>> On Wednesday, May 10th, 2023 at 03:44, Steve Lee via bitcoin-dev 
>> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't this as simple as anyone (in particular Core project contributors) 
>>> can express their view in this PR? 
>>> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5:03 AM Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev 
>>> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 12:36 PM David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev 
>>>> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2023-05-06 21:03, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>>>>>> Essentially my concern is going forward current maintainers will
>>>>>> decide which proposed new maintainers to add and which to block.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is how a large percentage of organizations are run. The current
>>>>> members of a board or other governance group choose who will become a
>>>>> new board member.
>>>>
>>>> Yes but it's unrelated to what Bitcoin Core is-- a volunteer project of 
>>>> independent contributors merging different pull requests or patches. The 
>>>> github controls are merely because that is how github works. There is also 
>>>> a secondary issue of people tending to confuse Bitcoin Core with the 
>>>> bitcoin protocol in general:
>>>> https://blog.lopp.net/who-controls-bitcoin-core/
>>>> https://medium.com/@bergealex4/the-tao-of-bitcoin-development-ff093c6155cd
>>>> https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/a-primer-on-bitcoin-governance-or-why-developers-aren-t-in-charge-of-the-protocol-1473270427
>>>>
>>>> - Bryan
>>>> https://twitter.com/kanzure
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