I see it was merged since my original post. I agree that is a very short window of time. In particular, if a long-time Core contributor wasn't able to attend the in-person meeting or last week's IRC meeting, they'd have had to really been on the ball.
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 10:22 AM Michael Folkson < michaelfolk...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > Blocking Vasil was discussed on a similar GitHub PR. Whether or not one > agrees or disagrees, the same process is being used. Anyone can NACK and > give a reason for Russ as well. > > With respect Steve the process for Vasil was keeping Vasil's PR open for > up to 5 months with zero NACKs and two maintainers refusing to engage on > why it wasn't being merged or what it needed for it to be merged. Followed > by a later justification for blocking it that they've refused to discuss > whether it applies to Russ. > > The process for Russ was the maintainers deciding privately there was a > need for a maintainer "who understood our interfaces and modularization > efforts well" and his PR was merged within 2 days. > > If that's the same process to you I don't know what to say. We have > different perspectives on what constitutes a decision process. > > (I'm sure this is clear but just to reiterate in case it isn't none of > this is a criticism of Russ.) > > Thanks > Michael > > -- > Michael Folkson > Email: michaelfolkson at protonmail.com > GPG: A2CF5D71603C92010659818D2A75D601B23FEE0F > > Learn about Bitcoin: https://www.youtube.com/@portofbitcoin > > ------- Original Message ------- > On Wednesday, May 10th, 2023 at 17:36, Steve Lee <steven.j....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Blocking Vasil was discussed on a similar GitHub PR. Whether or not one > agrees or disagrees, the same process is being used. Anyone can NACK and > give a reason for Russ as well. > > On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 8:55 AM Michael Folkson < > michaelfolk...@protonmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Steve >> >> > Isn't this as simple as anyone (in particular Core project >> contributors) can express their view in this PR? >> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604 >> >> Nope. The extent to which the rationale for blocking Vasil as a >> maintainer applies or doesn't apply to ryanofsky (or future potential >> maintainers) isn't discussed. From now on the precedent is proposed >> maintainers can be blocked for unknown and/or potentially inconsistent >> reasons by the existing maintainers. >> >> Thanks >> Michael >> >> -- >> Michael Folkson >> Email: michaelfolkson at protonmail.com >> GPG: A2CF5D71603C92010659818D2A75D601B23FEE0F >> >> Learn about Bitcoin: https://www.youtube.com/@portofbitcoin >> >> ------- Original Message ------- >> On Wednesday, May 10th, 2023 at 03:44, Steve Lee via bitcoin-dev < >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >> >> Isn't this as simple as anyone (in particular Core project contributors) >> can express their view in this PR? >> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604 >> >> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5:03 AM Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev < >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 12:36 PM David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev < >>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2023-05-06 21:03, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev wrote: >>>> > Essentially my concern is going forward current maintainers will >>>> > decide which proposed new maintainers to add and which to block. >>>> >>>> This is how a large percentage of organizations are run. The current >>>> members of a board or other governance group choose who will become a >>>> new board member. >>>> >>> >>> Yes but it's unrelated to what Bitcoin Core is-- a volunteer project of >>> independent contributors merging different pull requests or patches. The >>> github controls are merely because that is how github works. There is also >>> a secondary issue of people tending to confuse Bitcoin Core with the >>> bitcoin protocol in general: >>> https://blog.lopp.net/who-controls-bitcoin-core/ >>> >>> https://medium.com/@bergealex4/the-tao-of-bitcoin-development-ff093c6155cd >>> >>> https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/a-primer-on-bitcoin-governance-or-why-developers-aren-t-in-charge-of-the-protocol-1473270427 >>> >>> - Bryan >>> https://twitter.com/kanzure >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bitcoin-dev mailing list >>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >>> >> >> >
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