Thorsten,

My advice... go into the system folder of each mac, one by one, and drag
the extension's folder into the trash. Try to reboot. Put the missing
extensions it compains about back in. Reboot. Try each application, perf,
etc. that the user users one by one, and put the extentions they need back
in, one by one.

Tack is right. It's all about stoopid extensions...

Cheers,
sach



On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, David Schupner wrote:

> I usually stay out of the PC vs Mac debate .. but I
> will say that I've been using Winblowz and Redhat
> Linux pretty sucessfully over the last few years.
>
> I have used Macs, but I'm not really impressed.. that
> is until I saw OS X .. Very nice OS .. all Vector
> Graphics. The only problem with that is some
> applications do not work in OSX, so you have to load
> OS 9 to use them. You can  virtually load os9( still
> kinda a pain) your old apps inside of OSX.
>
> And then there is the software issue. It's a pain to
> get copies of apps ( At least for me ) for the Mac. I
> can find PC apps all over the place ( I can't say how
> or where ) and usually pretty easy to install..
>
> I don't think I will install Windows XP though ..
> especially since I have learned you can only use one
> copy per machine ( yuck! ) but I might get XP with one
> of those Dell 1 GHz notebooks that are under 2 Grand
> .. can you believe how these things have fallen !! We
> should all rush out and buy notebooks ..
>
> -Schoop
>
>
>
>
> --- tack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > multi-task! Fuckin quick mail! Had to stop that
> > job in a hurry.
> >
> > If you're using ClickMail for your internet mail
> > gatway (used to be the
> > only way with quickmail) , lemme know, I used to do
> > tech support for it,
> > and if also using clickmail central direcorty for
> > ldap, I supported that
> > too...as well as wrote the web admin interface.
> >
> > > Tack, and any other mac users,
> > > can someone please explain to me what the
> > attraction is,
> > > apart from the highly marketed and ubiquitous
> > "cutesy-ness"
> > > of them?
> >
> > It seems you're working for idiots.  Macs fall prey
> > to "computer lab
> > syndrome" fairly easily.  Most mac issues are due to
> > extension conflicts,
> > netscape and Microsoft OLE and DLL extensions
> > corrupting system memory.
> > Users will notoriously install anything they get
> > their hands on, the
> > extensions build up, and then it gets kooky.
> >
> > In OS 9, the way to stop this is to, like UNIX, use
> > multiple users to deny
> > users admin access.  That will solve that problem.
> >
> > With the mac centric servers (quickmail....maybe
> > appleshare IP) it's
> > possible you may be using localtalk (phone lines
> > instead of ehter).  If
> > that's the case, Check for rj-11 splitters...users
> > put them in becdause
> > they see a phonme cord and think it works the same
> > way.  Some spooky
> > printer problems can be attributed to this
> > (experience).
> >
> > As I've said before, My Mac doesn't have these
> > problems because I know
> > how to use a computer.  So for the appeal...when not
> > being mangled by
> > ignorant boobs and impotent sysops, the mac gets the
> > hell out of your way.
> > I get to concentrate on my work without having to
> > think about computing.
> >
> > I'm really sorry you got the mangled network from
> > hell.  Your company
> > really should educate the staff about extensions and
> > stability, and the IT
> > staff should do clean installs and not give system
> > folder access to the
> > users.
> >
> > tack
> >
>
>
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