Came across the posting below on a local job board.  It's interesting
to see the same issues from blue collar labor unions concerned about
foreign labor coming up in the high tech sector.  Rather than
exporting the work as the manufacturing sector does to the third
world, the high tech sector imports its cheap labor.  I wonder why
that is.  Perhaps because the tech workers are paid a living wage,
they can afford to live in the U.S. and spend their earnings here,
whereas as a third world factory worker could not afford to live here
on what they make.  

Or maybe it's more important for high tech labor to be close to the
heart of things.  This brings up again a paradox of the high tech
sector.  The marvels of the internet promised to make location
irrelevant, yet in the silicon valley boom of the last few years,
every big shot crowded to have the most prestigious address in the
valley.  Why are Nike and the Gap happy to ship their factories
abroad, but big information technology players like HP concentrating
their workforce in pricey Santa Clara?

The headline number of 671,000 H1-B workers is indeed pretty striking,
but not so large when you compare it to the size of the US labor force
(140 million).  Any one know what the size of the information tech
labor force in the US is?

John

 Where Did All The Jobs Go? - The H-1B Situation

 I am a software engineer currently looking for work. My job skills
 are current. In fact, I filed a patent at my last employer. I have
 submitted hundreds of resumes for various positions. I have only had
 a few job interviews. However, those interviews were quite
 informative. For example, on a recent interview, I immediately
 noticed that the software managers and engineers were from other
 countries since English was not their first language. This appears to
 be the situation at all the companies I have recently interviewed
 with.

 I was aware that Congress had recently doubled the number of H-1B
 visas for skilled foreign workers. In fact, 671,000 H-1B workers will
 be employed in the U.S. by the end of 2001. What is the H-1B
 program? "The H-1B non-immigrant program is a voluntary program
 that allows employers to temporarily import and employ non-
 immigrants admitted under H-1B visas to fill specialized jobs not
 filled by U.S. workers."
 http://www.dol.gov/dol/eta/public/regs/fedreg/final/2000122001.htm

 Each company hiring an H-1B employee is required to file a Labor
 Condition Application (LCA). An LCA is an application filed by a
 company that wants to hire a foreign national to fill a position within
 the United States. With this in mind, I wanted to determine how
 many engineering positions were filled by H-1B engineers at a given
 company. Since this should be public information, I went to my
 trusty search engine looking for a LCA database. For some reason, it
 does not appear that the INS (http://www.ins.gov) or other
 government web sites provide a LCA database. However, I finally
 found a web site which has a LCA database at
 (http://www.zazona.com).

 The database link is at (http://www.zazona.com/LCA-Data). Their
 advanced database search is very helpful. For example in the
 advanced search, select the state as California, enter a city as Santa
 Clara, enter the employer name as Hewlett Packard and enter
 number of records as 100 then press the submit query button. You
 can see the positions and salaries of the H-1B employees. Looking at
 the data, we are not talking about a few dozen positions. We are
 talking about literally hundreds of positions. This is only for the HP
 offices in Santa Clara. Go back and do the above search but leave the
 enter a city blank. You will see that Hewlett Packard employs
 hundreds and hundreds of H-1B workers. Moreover, we are not only
 losing engineering jobs but H-1B visas are being granted for almost
 any conceivable position. Just look at the LCA database to see what
 types of jobs are being denied to U.S. citizens.

 This appears to be the only site with a LCA database so I wondered
 who created the site. There is an interesting article about its creator
 at www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/1094647p-1159082c.html

 With the current economic conditions, many large firms have
 instigated massive layoffs. Many engineers have been unable to find
 work for months. As mentioned above, the H-1B program allows
 employers to temporarily import and employ non U.S. citizens to fill
 specialized jobs not filled by U.S. workers. Go back and look at the
 list of jobs filled at Hewlett Packard by H-1B employees. I
 personally know of many individuals who are qualified for those
 positions but are unable to find work. Something is seriously wrong.

 I've been told by many permanent and contract hiring agencies that
 companies now prefer to hire H-1B workers and work them long
 hours at lower wages - knowing they won't say anything fearing they
 would lose their H-1B status. At my last firm, the engineering
 manager had his engineers working many weekends. When one of
 the H-1B engineers complained, he said that there were plenty of
 engineers in Taiwan that wanted his place. I have heard other
 engineers say that managers like to threaten H-1B engineers with
 losing their H-1B status unless they do exactly what they are told.
 I've also heard and personally noticed that many companies are
 hiring H-1B managers with the expressed purpose of having them
 fill engineering positions with H-1B engineers from their respective
 country. Many companies are finding this an inexpensive way to
 lower costs as discussed in a recent USA Today article titled "Tech
 Firms' Hiring Practices Ignore Idle Americans"
 (http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20011205/3673849s.htm).

 Someone wrote me to ask "Why do US citizens deserve the jobs
 more than H-1B workers?" Well, think about it. If tomorrow,
 671,000 technical jobs in say New Delhi were suddenly replaced by
 American workers, the Indian government would be very upset. The
 problem is the sheer number of people since 671,000 H-1B workers
 will be employed in the U.S. by the end of 2001. There needs to be a
 more balanced system in which everyone comes out ahead.
 Countries need to provide the infrastructure for their own engineers
 to develop businesses and find employment at home. Globalization
 should mean that software projects are jointly developed between
 countries rather than having everyone move here. The myth is that
 the U.S. has unlimited space but just look at the traffic congestion in
 most U.S. cities. What was initially a reasonable idea has grown into
 a monster of unreasonable size.

 The U.S. is one of the few countries which now offers unlimited
 access to its job market at the expense of its own citizens. While
 going to college, if I had any idea that most of the engineering
 positions would be taken by H-1B labor, I would never have become
 an engineer. I advise young people not to become involved in
 engineering since companies find it easier to hire less expensive H-
 1B labor. The H-1B managers prefer to hire more H-1B labor - it's
 only human nature - so you have a vicious cycle. The end result is
 that U.S. citizens need not apply.

 The other issue is that U.S. engineering firms are no longer hiring
 African and Hispanic Americans. I've noticed that many firms with
 H-1B managers have no African and Hispanic Americans on their
 staff. We need to hire minority Americans at home before we run off
 and hire everyone from elsewhere.

 I believe with the current economic conditions the H-1B issue will
 become a very important topic in the coming months. Frankly, the
 media and press have not discussed the seriousness of this subject.
 Why? I believe they did not have the tools and databases required to
 see the size of the problem. Fortunately, the LCA data is now
 available at (http://www.zazona.com). You can now determine how
 many and what type of jobs are being denied to unemployed U.S.
 citizens at a given company and location.

 The H-1B law says it is to "temporarily import and employ ...
 specialized jobs not filled by U.S. workers". Thus, the law was
 intended for "temporary" rather than permanent labor. The law was
 clearly not intended to deny U.S. citizens jobs but this is precisely
 what it is doing during this difficult economic time. What needs to
 be done to correct this grievous situation?

 Congress needs to enforce the law by requiring companies to provide
 immediate employment to qualified unemployed U.S. citizens if an
 H-1B employee is filling a position a citizen is qualified for. When a
 company has layoffs, Congress should force companies to obey the
 law by discharging H-1B employees before U.S. citizens. It's the
 law. Whether Congress enforces the law is another matter.

 It is ironic that the same corporations displaying football field size
 American flags are the worse offenders. They are making the
 technology sector as dependent upon foreign labor as we are
 dependent upon foreign oil. Because of their lust for profits, our
 government, banking, financial and technology systems are now
 heavily in the hands of non citizens. Companies are using the system
 to their own advantage while pitting U.S. employees against H-1B
 employees and cruelly hurting both.

 If the current H-1B situation is not immediately changed, U.S.
 citizens will abandon the engineering field. Think about it. You just
 lost your job and go to the LCA database to learn that 25 H-1B
 employees are still working in your position. You will not be a
 happy camper. What can you do to help?

 Email this article to all your friends.

 Encourage them to look at the LCA database.
 http://www.zazona.com/LCA-Data/
 The job they are losing may be on the list.

 Sign the petition. You will find a petition to send to your
 congressional representatives at
 http://www.zazona.com/H1BPetition/P/petition.html

 Your most powerful action is to write your U.S. Congressperson and
 Senators. Remember, H-1B employees cannot vote but as a U.S.
 citizen, your vote counts. Even though powerful companies have
 heavily contributed to your congressional leaders to keep the H-1B
 laws in place, companies cannot vote - only you can. Don't let your
 job be eliminated next.

 You can find your congressional representative at these links.
 Your Congressperson
 http://www.house.gov/writerep/
 Your Senators
 http://www.senate.gov/contacting/index_by_state.cfm

 Don't forget to both email and make a phone call to your local
 Congressperson.

 Write the business and political editors of your local newspaper.

 The following academic articles should be of interest:

 Dr. Norman Matloff is a professor of computer science at the
 University of California at Davis
 http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.html

 August 5, 1999 Testimony of Gene A. Nelson, Ph.D.
 http://www.house.gov/judiciary/nels0805.htm

 Thank you for your support.

 Unemployed Engineer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 P.S. I have received a flood of positive email so please forgive me if
 I am unable to respond to your email. I will try to respond to as
 many of you as I can. Thanks

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