Quoting Steven Kah Hien Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 10:22:35AM +0300, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
> > I'm currently researching PHP-based wiki's out there to find the most
> > suitable one. Proposals and accounts of personal experiences are
> welcome.
> > So far I have my heart set on one of the following:
> > - PHPWiki: http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/
> > - PMWiki: http://www.pmwiki.org/
> > - Wikki Tikki Tavi: http://tavi.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Looking briefly at them all, I like Wikki Tikki Tavi. The strict XHTML
> conformance and CSS for layout is the big plus for me. I really don't
> like bad, auto-generated code. Atleast this one seems tolerable. :) The
> interface looks functional, but simple. I'm sure plugging in a custom
> CSS stylesheet will spice things up, nicely.

At the first glance, 'Tavi is the one I like, too. I'd like to keep
things as simple as possible and 'Tavi seems to be that way and offer
nice features too.

> > 4. If you have more experience with wikis: how complicated is it to
> > prevent people from spamming it?
> 
> Not quite sure what you mean by spamming, but Wikki Tikki Tavi seems to
> have an "edit-rate limiting scheme". That should help? You can block
> hosts (not very effective if you ask me). And also lock pages. There is
> no user-authentication on the Wiki though, except for an admin area.
> This Wiki puts faith into its viewers, I guess.

By spamming I mean people entering junk or links to their own sites
which have nothing to do with Blackbox. I was just on the PMWiki site
and a spammer added links to some obscure Korean sites on the front
page right when I was there. From the changelogs it seems he's doing
this on a regular basis.

But after pondering this for a while, it seems to be you can't dispose
of having fate in the visitors if you really want a public wiki. If you
make accounts mandatory and registration a less than trivial process,
they might be put off and contribute less or not at all. And even so,
a spammer will not be put off by the challenge. If anything, since the
spammer has more of an incentive than the decent folks, doing this
almost guarantees that only spammers will feel motivated enough to
"contribute".

'Tavi allows anybody to store preferences in a cookie which is editable
via the "Preferences" page. Very simple and trivial to use.

I'd like some read-only mechanism for some pages, such as the homepage.

The only thing really bothering me about 'Tavi is that it doesn't
support inclusion of images. How critical do you thing that is? We
can overcome this by providing links to style pages of other people
and Blackbox style repositories such as FreshMeat.

-- 
Ciprian Popovici

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