On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, White Vampire wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> It seems that Blackbox has a rather general progression
> problem. Whenever someone makes any sort of suggestion (which may or
> may not be bad) it is approached in several ways:
>
> First of all, a few people will say they like it. Then a few
> people will say it sucks. Then, a whole lot of people will rant about
> how features suck and how Blackbox is already perfect.
Why do you have a problem with people wanting a window manager that is
small and fast? Looking back to the 40.x series, the point at which I
started using blackbox, there were enough features to do what was
necessary but not a whole lot else. When new releases came out, they
might have new features, but odds are the new release was faster than the
old one. People have been asking for features on this list ever since I
joined it two years ago. People have also wondered since that time why
people give them a hard time for suggesting features.
> It is not that I do not agree, keeping Blackbox without bloat
> /is/ good. I first started using Blackbox because I had limited
> resources available. However, it seems like a lot of the attitude is
> generally lacking in some regards. Perhaps that is because the list is
> unmoderated? With that in mind, the list has surpisingly decent
> content. (Comparing to how other lists would degrade without
> moderation.. perhaps my statement is self-conflicting there.)
You seem to want features _and_ a small and fast window manager. Those
two things are not mutually exclusive, but close. In the 6x.x series,
blackbox has added a large number of features and as a result, crashes
more and uses more memory for me than it ever did before. Granted, I use
a few of these features, but does anyone really use them all?
Why moderate this list? I am on plenty of other mailing lists, none are
moderated. What would be the point of moderation, weeding out people who
like blackbox the way it is or those who want more features than E?
> In closing, perhaps you should all just keep a more open
> mind. Think before you speak. Be kind to others, or at least more
> reasonable in your responses. If they end up too negative, do not
> bother sending them. That, in the end, would speed up progression and
> keep things going in a more pleasant manner.
I do not to plan to keep an open mind about new features. The reason I
use blackbox is because its feature set is limited, which keeps it
fast. It appears there are plenty of people who use it for different
reasons and want more features. I hope these people don't win out. The
progression you speak of is exactly the kind of thing I would like to
avoid.
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"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice ...
moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue"
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