On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 09:59:17AM -0400, Gregory J. Barlow wrote:
> I am pretty tired of contributing to this discussion. Its
> just another indicator of how the goals of blackbox have
> changed since I first started using it. I can only hope
> that Jeff doesn't succumb to this too often. I do not
> believe blackbox should cater to a new user or to the
> majority of users. Brad's similar attitude is one of
> the reasons I have stuck with blackbox for this long.
The goals of blackbox haven't changed, nor have I succumbed
to anything. Blackbox aims not just for minimalism, but for
a clean minimalism done right. I think there are definite
issues with the way the menus work, and so I'm fixing them.
Leaving them exactly as they are for tradition's sake is
assinine.
I now know how I want the menus to behave, and with luck I'll
finish coding up the changes this weekend, at which point I
can finally make the new core classes available. If some
people don't like the changes... well, I think the code is
fairly readable, so I'm sure someone will come up with a
patch so that they're more to their liking.
> > To start the ball rolling, I like the ideas that give the
> > most choice to those who aren't 100% on how the system
> > works. How else are we supposed to get people to change
> > to a superior WM if they don't understand it?
>
> My opinion on this is obvious. Why should we care if people
> switch to blackbox? Will blackbox still be a superior window
> manager if stuff keeps getting added and the UI is altered by
> people coming from a different window manager who are used to
> something else, and want it here too?
More people means better testing and hopefully fewer bugs, but
beyond that I really don't care too much how many people use
blackbox. What I care about is that _I_ use blackbox, and if
certain aspects of it annoy me, I'm going to fix them.
Other window managers provide a convenient way to try out other
designs before settling on anything for blackbox, but for the
most part they have only served me as examples of behaviors I
don't want.
Jeff Raven
