Ok, after seeing folks flail about trying to figure out what the hell
Xinerama is supposed to do, here is the simple answer.

Recall one of the major advantages of the Macintosh was the ability to
transparently connect multiple monitors. You could fill every slot with a
video adapter and the OS just "knew" they were there. Even if they were
different sizes, you could still piece them together into one "space", and
the control panel let you determine where and how the spaces fit together.
You could drag windows between the screens, and even have then split
across the screens. On the three slot IIci, you could have 4 screens in a
2x2 matrix - this was very cool (of course, the IIci could barely run 4
screens - but it was still neat to see) The 2 slot Quadra's still allowed
you to have a 3 screen wide display. My graphics design artist friends
like this because they could keep their palettes and toolbars on one
monitor, and their work on the other. It saved a *lot* of time.

Microsoft eventually copied this into Windows, so you can now have
multiple screens on PC's and drag windows back and forth between the
screens. It's not as bright as the Mac version, of course, but the idea is
the same. (for example - you can't specify different resolutions and color
depths on a per monitor basis in Windows)

So, what I think folks are asking for is a similar capability in BlackBox.
We want to transparently drag windows between monitors as easily as it can
be done on Macs and in Windows on a dual head setup. Right now, you can't
do this. If you start up a window on one head - it is stuck there. Why is
this important? Well, let's say one of your "monitors" is a projection
screen - wouldn't it be nice to format your output and then just move it
over?

Ok, that's it - I'm done ranting... :)

Seth Henry



On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Bo Thorsen wrote:

> On Wednesday 30 January 2002 15:06, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 22:25, Marco Fonseca wrote:
> > > >Icon menu jumps to mind.  Simply minimize the offending window.  If
> > > >pulling it up frequently is a problem, tear off the icon menu and leave
> > > >it hanging around.
> > >
> > > This in particular doesn't work so well for me.  I have a tendancy of
> > > having tons of terminal emulators open at once.  These usually have the
> > > name "rxvt" and nothing more.  If I have multiple terms iconized, its a
> > > pain to try to find which one to un-iconize.
> >
> > Could always use the title option and label your rxvt terminals to
> > reflect what they are used for.
> >
> > > Same thing applies for what was said about moving apps to a new
> > > workspace.  While its trival, nothing seems to replace being able to
> > > quickly use the additional display room when using xinerama.
> >
> > However, this does not mean that we need artificial boundaries.
> > Xinerama provides one screen, end of story.
>
> No, dammit! This is what you just don't get. I want two screens and the
> possibility to move windows between them. This is also the way other Xinerama
> users want to use it. The fact that Xinerama wasn't intended for this doesn't
> mean anything what so ever. Why the #�%& don't you allow others to use
> something in another way than you think should be the right way? You have
> even said that you don't use Xinerama, so why on earth are you discussing
> this so much?
>
> It seems to me that the ones crying foul in this discussion are the ones who
> are using dualhead instead. The ones using Xinerama wants to tweak it to be
> more usable for the desktop. Xinerama with borders between monitors provides
> options that no other solution does, and it eludes me why someone would deny
> others this possibility.
>
> Bo.
>
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