Thanks for your thoughts Howard! I've got a some reasons for the layout. I'll revise the template later and get back to you.
On Mar 31, 11:33 pm, Howard Melman <[email protected]> wrote: > I mostly like it. The following is longer than I thought to type, but I think > it's mostly nits. I think it's important to get the example template right so > others can copy it effectively but feel free to say I'm being too picky. > > Overview and tutorials are great. The Overview example text could use a > little more detail. All plugins "Help Quicksilver interact with" and "Opera" > is the name of the module so the only word that provides info is "browser". > If you don't know what Opera is, it explains that it's a browser and that is > very useful. I'd rather see something like "Support for the Opera browser, > including an Open With Opera action and exposing bookmarks and more in the > catalog." I somehow feel the link to the author's homepage should be in some > template but I'm not sure where (maybe with version number?). > > I like the information but not necessarily the layout of the giant grids with > mostly empty space. I don't understand why having an info button should have > the important first spot. The most important thing that plugins add are > Actions and Catalog items and I think those should be first in that order. I > do like the hierarchy being shown in the catalog and the type for actions but > it took me a little to figure it out. Maybe bolding the actions and catalog > entries like they are in the Commands section to make them stand out? > > In commands I don't understand "Items in brackets are additional > instructions." I don't see brackets, [], though I do see parenthesis (). And > it looks like additional instructions are in the Extra Requirements and Notes > columns. > > I believe Proxy Objects requires Advanced Features to be enabled so that > should be listed in requirements and you probably shouldn't start off with > something that requires Advanced Features. Also Current Web Page comes from > the Safari plugin (which should be in requirements) so while it works, it > probably shouldn't be here at all since it's the same as URL. What I'd do in > this case is under Operas current web page, in the note I'd say not to be > confused with the badly named Current web page proxy object which refers only > to Safari's current page. For the Copy from Opera to scripts I think it's > useful to list them all on their own line and not just in the note say there > are others. I'm guessing there's are copy to Opera variants and currently I > don't know their name. > > Is "Operas open tabs" a proxy object or only available via right-arrow into > Opera.app? I assume Opera needs to be running for this so that should be in > the notes. I'd think these things should be grouped together and not > separated by a proxy object example. Maybe these should be up in the > preferences items section but I'm not sure how. > > I appreciate that saying "(Text and URL actions)" tells you a list of > available actions but I think I still want to see specific examples. I'm not > sure what I'd do with an open tab other than show or close and these aren't > text or URL actions. I assume searches work with Find With... and Search > For... which require the Web Searches plugin and probably should be listed > explicitly for people to find and need something in the third pane (its > listed as blank). > > Howard > > On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:01 AM, philostein wrote: > > > > > I've taken a lot of junk1's ideas and Patrick's wish to have fewer > > screenshots, and come up with this: > >http://qsapp.com/wiki/Opera_Module > > > There's 4 sections: > > > - Overview > > - Preference Items > > - Commands > > - Tutorials > > > Some details: > > > - Overview: A quick summary of what the plugin does with a interface > > window image (75% size jpg 20 kb). > > > - Preference Items: What the plugin adds to Preferences. I've bulleted > > the navigation structure to hopefully make the items easier to find. > > > - Commands: Instead of just Actions, I think it's better to list > > Commands. Plugins sometimes add objects (e.g., scripts, Address Book > > contacts) and catalog entries as well as actions. There's columns for > > extra requirements (e.g., Proxy Objects catalog entry needs to be > > checked) and notes. > > > - Tutorials: Videos (no bandwidth), walkthroughs, hints and tips here. > > > I think it'll be easier to see all the info while still being compact. > > > Let me know what you think. If this is a goer, I'll add a template > > page to the wiki to make it easier for anyone to add pages. > > > Notes: Opera's current web page Proxy is broken in ß58? How to align > > text to the top of tables in the wiki? > > > Cheers, Phil. > > > On Mar 30, 6:45 am, philostein <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Perhaps just one image near the top as an example, then a template > >> format for other actions. > > >> What about a table with First pane, second pane, third pane columns? > > >> On Mar 30, 6:24 am, Patrick Robertson <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >>>> Although I freely admit that I only tested it for about 3 seconds with > > >>> B58. It works great with B54. > > >>> Works beautifully on B58 for me ;) > > >>>> Here's the revision. Let me know what I got wrong. > > >>> Looks good to me. I think it may be good to have a short one liner > >>> description at the top of every page (similar to what you see in QS when > >>> you > >>> click the 'i' but better as these are pretty rubbish) > > >>> Does everyone think images are necessary? They look nice but I'm not > >>> sure... > > >>> On 30 March 2011 05:49, Rob McBroom <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:54 PM, philostein wrote: > > >>>>> I updated the Calculator and Tatau info. I added the Remote Hosts > >>>>> Module - sorry, I must have missed that one somehow. (If you're > >>>>> reading Rob, does this work still?) > > >>>> I was out of town - catching up. > > >>>> You mean does the plug-in work? I think it was written after 10.6 was > >>>> out, > >>>> so… yeah. :) > > >>>> Although I freely admit that I only tested it for about 3 seconds with > >>>> B58. > >>>> It works great with B54. > > >>>> -- > >>>> Rob McBroom > >>>> <http://www.skurfer.com/>
