>Why not use the "wikitable" class for the tables? (like the plugin ref) I >think that looks nicer, and if we use classes in CSS it means it'll be easy >to just update the styles in the future, as opposed to having to edit every >page.
The bulleted lines in the column titles row get centred instead of to the right of the preceding line. Perhaps there's a way of doing this with wikitables? Someone could help out here - my knowledge is, shall we say, hazy. >I'm not even quite sure what the "info 'i' button" column actually means. (Sorry!) Any info for the plugin. I think that could go at the bottom of the page though. I'll take it out. >I have to agree with Howard on most of his points. I feel it should be as >easily accessible as possible, especially for new comers. The big table is a >bit in your face, and a few of the columns are left blank (I think this is >because of the idea that we'll just copy/paste the template) Yes, for the template. Can be removed for plugins that don't have those items. >All in all, good work and a good start. Thanks! :) On Apr 1, 6:48 am, Patrick Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: > Nice to get some kind of template/content up. > > I have to agree with Howard on most of his points. I feel it should be as > easily accessible as possible, especially for new comers. The big table is a > bit in your face, and a few of the columns are left blank (I think this is > because of the idea that we'll just copy/paste the template) > > I'm not even quite sure what the "info 'i' button" column actually means. > (Sorry!) > > Why not use the "wikitable" class for the tables? (like the plugin ref) I > think that looks nicer, and if we use classes in CSS it means it'll be easy > to just update the styles in the future, as opposed to having to edit every > page. > > All in all, good work and a good start. > > Descending bullet points/lists are good, tutorials are good and some images > are good. > ... maybe sooner rather than later we should set up some kind of donations > scheme going for keeping the site online. It's still not costing me a penny, > but bandwidth is ramping up rapidly (due to the success of the site!) > > On 1 April 2011 07:59, philostein <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for your thoughts Howard! > > > I've got a some reasons for the layout. I'll revise the template later > > and get back to you. > > > On Mar 31, 11:33 pm, Howard Melman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I mostly like it. The following is longer than I thought to type, but I > > think it's mostly nits. I think it's important to get the example template > > right so others can copy it effectively but feel free to say I'm being too > > picky. > > > > Overview and tutorials are great. The Overview example text could use a > > little more detail. All plugins "Help Quicksilver interact with" and "Opera" > > is the name of the module so the only word that provides info is "browser". > > If you don't know what Opera is, it explains that it's a browser and that is > > very useful. I'd rather see something like "Support for the Opera browser, > > including an Open With Opera action and exposing bookmarks and more in the > > catalog." I somehow feel the link to the author's homepage should be in some > > template but I'm not sure where (maybe with version number?). > > > > I like the information but not necessarily the layout of the giant grids > > with mostly empty space. I don't understand why having an info button should > > have the important first spot. The most important thing that plugins add are > > Actions and Catalog items and I think those should be first in that order. I > > do like the hierarchy being shown in the catalog and the type for actions > > but it took me a little to figure it out. Maybe bolding the actions and > > catalog entries like they are in the Commands section to make them stand > > out? > > > > In commands I don't understand "Items in brackets are additional > > instructions." I don't see brackets, [], though I do see parenthesis (). And > > it looks like additional instructions are in the Extra Requirements and > > Notes columns. > > > > I believe Proxy Objects requires Advanced Features to be enabled so that > > should be listed in requirements and you probably shouldn't start off with > > something that requires Advanced Features. Also Current Web Page comes from > > the Safari plugin (which should be in requirements) so while it works, it > > probably shouldn't be here at all since it's the same as URL. What I'd do > > in this case is under Operas current web page, in the note I'd say not to be > > confused with the badly named Current web page proxy object which refers > > only to Safari's current page. For the Copy from Opera to scripts I think > > it's useful to list them all on their own line and not just in the note say > > there are others. I'm guessing there's are copy to Opera variants and > > currently I don't know their name. > > > > Is "Operas open tabs" a proxy object or only available via right-arrow > > into Opera.app? I assume Opera needs to be running for this so that should > > be in the notes. I'd think these things should be grouped together and not > > separated by a proxy object example. Maybe these should be up in the > > preferences items section but I'm not sure how. > > > > I appreciate that saying "(Text and URL actions)" tells you a list of > > available actions but I think I still want to see specific examples. I'm not > > sure what I'd do with an open tab other than show or close and these aren't > > text or URL actions. I assume searches work with Find With... and Search > > For... which require the Web Searches plugin and probably should be listed > > explicitly for people to find and need something in the third pane (its > > listed as blank). > > > > Howard > > > > On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:01 AM, philostein wrote: > > > > > I've taken a lot of junk1's ideas and Patrick's wish to have fewer > > > > screenshots, and come up with this: > > > >http://qsapp.com/wiki/Opera_Module > > > > > There's 4 sections: > > > > > - Overview > > > > - Preference Items > > > > - Commands > > > > - Tutorials > > > > > Some details: > > > > > - Overview: A quick summary of what the plugin does with a interface > > > > window image (75% size jpg 20 kb). > > > > > - Preference Items: What the plugin adds to Preferences. I've bulleted > > > > the navigation structure to hopefully make the items easier to find. > > > > > - Commands: Instead of just Actions, I think it's better to list > > > > Commands. Plugins sometimes add objects (e.g., scripts, Address Book > > > > contacts) and catalog entries as well as actions. There's columns for > > > > extra requirements (e.g., Proxy Objects catalog entry needs to be > > > > checked) and notes. > > > > > - Tutorials: Videos (no bandwidth), walkthroughs, hints and tips here. > > > > > I think it'll be easier to see all the info while still being compact. > > > > > Let me know what you think. If this is a goer, I'll add a template > > > > page to the wiki to make it easier for anyone to add pages. > > > > > Notes: Opera's current web page Proxy is broken in ß58? How to align > > > > text to the top of tables in the wiki? > > > > > Cheers, Phil. > > > > > On Mar 30, 6:45 am, philostein <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Perhaps just one image near the top as an example, then a template > > > >> format for other actions. > > > > >> What about a table with First pane, second pane, third pane columns? > > > > >> On Mar 30, 6:24 am, Patrick Robertson <[email protected]> > > > >> wrote: > > > > >>>> Although I freely admit that I only tested it for about 3 seconds > > with > > > > >>> B58. It works great with B54. > > > > >>> Works beautifully on B58 for me ;) > > > > >>>> Here's the revision. Let me know what I got wrong. > > > > >>> Looks good to me. I think it may be good to have a short one liner > > > >>> description at the top of every page (similar to what you see in QS > > when you > > > >>> click the 'i' but better as these are pretty rubbish) > > > > >>> Does everyone think images are necessary? They look nice but I'm not > > sure... > > > > >>> On 30 March 2011 05:49, Rob McBroom <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > >>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:54 PM, philostein wrote: > > > > >>>>> I updated the Calculator and Tatau info. I added the Remote Hosts > > > >>>>> Module - sorry, I must have missed that one somehow. (If you're > > > >>>>> reading Rob, does this work still?) > > > > >>>> I was out of town - catching up. > > > > >>>> You mean does the plug-in work? I think it was written after 10.6 > > was out, > > > >>>> so… yeah. :) > > > > >>>> Although I freely admit that I only tested it for about 3 seconds > > with B58. > > > >>>> It works great with B54. > > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Rob McBroom > > > >>>> <http://www.skurfer.com/>
