On 01/27/2012 09:24 PM, Ken Moffat wrote:
>   Normally, I use icewm-1.3, so the apps in my menu are determined by
> what is in ~/.icewm/programs.  But now I've been testing, and
> occasionally using, gnome3 I find that applications need an
> appname.desktop file in /usr/share/apps/ to appear in the menus.
>
Freedesktop.org.
>   [ for pedants - yes, I know that I can put these files in ~/,local/
> or wherever to make them only appear for me, but I take the view
> that if I'm installing an app it should be available to all users,
> although the practical difference on my systems is negligible ;-) ]
>
>   So, there are two apps I've installed which don't automatically
> appear in the menus - firefox and rxvt-unicode.  I can add these
> with .desktop files, although rxvt-unicode seems slightly broken in
> gnome - it's a bit too big, like it was on ppc32 last time I used
> that, although it's ok when I start it directly from .xinitrc.
> Firefox is *more* important to me (I've now got gnome-terminal
> reconfigured to word adequately), but the same principle probably
> applies to thunderbird and seamonkey).

I have a tarball that I've carried around for a few years now that 
contains two SVG images, several various sized png images (created from 
the former), and a makefile that installs complete multi-lingual 
.desktop files and icons for TB and FF. I have no idea where they came 
from, I'd guess the .desktop files from Debian, but the SVG images, not 
the slightest clue (I remember searching for them a few years ago). But 
yes, TB has the same problem. I can't speak for the full suite. If you 
want, I can send to you (as soon as I find it).


>   For ff and urxvt, I've found $RANDOMDISTRO .desktop files - for
> firefox, there is an old (2005, I think) bugzilla entry, with
> comments from last year, but they've been happy to let linux and BSD
> distros do their own thing for this.  I assume that the problem also
> applies on kde4 and xfce, but I have no evidence.  For trinity, I
> have no idea.
>
>   Is it appropriate to add .desktop files to patches- ?  Perhaps in a
> dot-desktop directory ?
>
>   If so, does anyone know how to put comments in these files ?
> (primarily, for where they came from).
Yep, just like any other unix file "# ..." Here is the spec: 
http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/

>   Alternatively, should we just discourage desktop environments, since
> most of us loathe them ?  That would certainly save me a lot of time
> in the next few weeks, merging gnome3 :)
>
Hey! I like my full of eye-candy desktop environments! I just lack the 
time to build the things when I want.

-- DJ Lucas


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