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From: Bruce Dubbs
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 9:59 AM
To: BLFS Development List
Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] sddm


Ken Moffat wrote:

> With further testing the upowerd and udisks2 startups also reported
> errors.  The whole thing is so complex that I begin to unbderstand
> some of the desire for systemd.

The design is overly borked.  What's wrong with setting up a group or 
groups to designate the capabilities.  If the user is a member of the 
group, then those capabilities are granted.  No need for dbus at all.

It may be that in 1% of commercial situations the policy stuff is 
needed, but it's again the attitude that one size fits all.  If anyone 
needs a complex solution, then lets saddle everyone with the complex 
solution.

It all seems counter-intuitive to me.  The only systems that need things 
like hibernate and suspend are laptops.  They do not have multiple users.

systemd as a complex solution for an artificially complex permissions 
system?

Madness.

   -- Bruce
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Bruce have you tested sddm against ConsoleKit2 to see if the new functions 
imported from systemd-logind rectify the situation.

-Kenny
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