> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 01:08:04 +0100
> From: [email protected] (akhiezer)
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [blfs-support] cups printing in blfs-7.4
>
> > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 12:02:11 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Sirsendu Roy <[email protected]>
> > To: BLFS Support List <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Kde cannot start !!!!! solved !!!!!
> >
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> > As per the HP printer problem is concerned, I have tried almost every 
> > combination, but somehow it didn't work. 
> > SO I would like start from the beginning unstalling everything. 
> > Can you please tell me the order in which I will install the required 
> > module and and configure everything.
>
>
> First, did you see the thread from Fernando, that ended with the message:
> --
> Fernando de Olivei Sun Sep 15 17:29  156/6529  \
>  [blfs-dev] Can print - again, but... (was: Cannot print -
> --
> ? There, Fernando summarises (AIUI) that downgrading to an earlier version of 
> cups*, got printing working again for him (with an Epson (?) printer).
>
>
> So, you might want to retry with the version(s) that Fernando describes. 
> Normally I'd install, in this order:
>   foomatic-rip, hpijs, gutenprint, ghostscript, cups, cups-filters.
> But I've not actually built any lfs/blfs-7.4 stuff yet - haven't even got 
> near 
> to it.
> Normally I'd never touch hplip: but as it's an HP All-In-One device, so you 
> may 
> want to use hplip in order to more-readily use the fuller range of 
> functionality 
> of the device; but I'd suggest at most doing so only further down the line & 
> after you've got basic printing working without hplip. Btw, as/when going the 
> hplip route, be sure to get an hplip version that has got the recent security 
> issues corrected (ref e.g. the '21 Aug' entry in Slackware changelog 
> 'www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=x86_64' ; and bear in mind the 
> likes of the Aug 30 & June 4 entries).
>


In case it needs saying explicitly: I'd recommend quite strongly that you 
_don't_ 
launch into the printing stuff, _until_ you're reasonably (sensibly) sure that 
your underlying system is behaving normally: otherwise you'll very likely be 
wasting your time. The reported issues with can't-start-kde (/dev/... problem), 
konsole (possibly /dev/... issue), X11 stuff having its permissions changed, 
&(?)usw, should at least give pause for thought.


For a common-usage desktop kde setup you'd at least want to be able to do the 
following reliably and repeatably:
---
* login & logout of KDE.
* clean boot & shutdown of machine.
* xterm/konsole shell environment works OK for everyday stuff.
* links/lynx/konqueror/... can show and navigate basic websites ok.
* imap/pop & smtp email (even if just through a secondary isp account) works 
ok. 
  NB this is as distinct from webmail.
* jpg/png shows onscreen OK (maybe as part of browser tests).
---


Without (approx.) those foundations in place, for 'a common-usage desktop kde 
setup' type of machine, then I'd say it's not sensible to try to build more on 
top of that at this stage.



rgds,

akh








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