On 30.8.2017 19:06, Cliff McDiarmid wrote:

Michael Shell wrote:

I found this:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-from-scratch-13/anyone-good-with-gnome3-4175608979/


Yes seen that. That's what made me think that Pam, maybe, is a prerequisite for 
Gnome.


In any case, do let us know if PAM was to blame.

Hi
Well I did the following: Installed linux-pam as per BLFS instructions reinstalled Systemd as BLFS


But did you configure PAM to use pam_systemd module? Your logs say otherwise.

reinstalled Xorg server

installed other packages that depend on PAM

and no, PAM it would seem isn't to blame. Still getting messages about logind 
and PAM(see attached log).  And from further digging it seems this message 
comes up for a variety of reasons not linked directly to PAM.   So where from 
here.  Thinking of running strace on the session and see the output.

thanks

Cliff




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