On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 09:24:24AM +0200, Allard Welter wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 11:45 PM, Ken Moffat <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Can you get an ID for trac (the wiki), please (ask Bruce) and raise a
> ticket
> > so I don't forget this ?
> >
> > At the moment my current systems don't have texlive installed, and I
> can't see
> > any point in me adding it to them - I'll be throwing them away soon
> because we
> > will soon be freezing and  testing for 8.2.
> 
> It is not a texlive issue.
> 

In terms of editing the book, if an additional pair of dependencies
(tk at compile time, a perl module at runtime) add something that
you want, then for editing the book it is a bug against the book's
texlive instructions.

And I'm not going to add it until I'm using a current system with
texlive (so that I can test what I write).  What with the current
changes in the kernel, new binutils, trying to track down firefox
beta in mercurial (*shudders*) and the many other things I've
put off until now, I very much doubt that I'll even remember about
this unless there is a ticket.

> kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFCNF
> 
> gives the correct paths. Evince uses TEXMFCNF from the environment (see
> evince-3.26.0/backend/dvi/texmfcnf.c). So now I have
> 
> export TEXMFCNF=`kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFCNF`
> 
> in .bash_profile
> 

When I have texlive installed (not at the moment because my current
systems are new, to look at Meltdown and Spectre mitigation, and
adding texlive is not worth my time since nothing has changed), my
memory says that if texdoc returns a PDF it will be opened in evince
because of the MIME type (evince is my default for application/pdf).

> > This will just be an optional link to tk, and anm optional runtime
> external
> > link, ( presumably to http://search.cpan.org/~srezic/Tk-804.034/ ?) so no
> big
> > deal to add those while we are tagging for 8.2.
> 
> My bad, texdoc points to a script and hence does not need Tk. The perl
> module
> constructs a gui at runtime.
> 

You said texdoctk, not texdoc.  If that needs some random perl
module at runtime then the book _could_ point that out.

> > FWIW, I've never hear of texdoctk until today,
> 
> There are wonderful things in the texlive documentation!
> 

There are also many archaic things, and other things which are still
used in used in certain places despite the availability of things
such as xelatex.  Spelunking randomly in the documentation can be
interesting, but is generally not very productive.  Reading the docs
when somebody has _suggested_ a tool or package is a different
matter.

ĸen
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