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At 20:22 27/12/2007, you wrote:
>Hello David,  I am not familiar with Zen Stone, what is it and where can I
>get some info on it.
>
>Also, is there a list for blind ipod users?
>
>Thanks,
>Steve
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Griffith
>Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:04 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] i-pod advice
>
>As discussed on this list before people with visual impairment are generally
>much better off buying the Creative Zen Stone rather than getting embroiled
>with the inaccessible Ipods and I Tunes . I know the shuffle is more
>accessible but as far as I am aware you still have to use I Tunes and end up
>paying for J Tunes scripts.
>
>
>Regards
>
>David Griffith
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
>Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2007 15:35
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] i-pod advice
>
>Yes, you are correct.
>
>In future I will never buy anything developed by Apple.  Their attitude to
>accessibility, especially through their Itunes software, stinks in my
>opinion.  If it has improved I apologise to them.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] i-pod advice
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>
> >I think it should be noted that the shuffle is not accessible in the
> > standard way that items for the blind are accessible.
> >
> > I don't believe the shuffle has any speech to tell you what file is
> > playing
> > or anything, it's simply made with no screen, thereby making it equally as
> > accessible for the blind as it is for sighted individuals in that the
> > items
> > are accessed blindly.
> >
> > At least that's the way I was told about it.
> >
> > Am I correct in this assessment?
> >
> > Victor
> >
> >
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