Hello Brian Hartgen's site has information on the Zen Stone as well as the I Pod . links towards the bottomed of his page.
http://www.hartgen.org/ Regards David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Crews Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2007 20:23 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] i-pod advice Hello David, I am not familiar with Zen Stone, what is it and where can I get some info on it. Also, is there a list for blind ipod users? Thanks, Steve -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] i-pod advice As discussed on this list before people with visual impairment are generally much better off buying the Creative Zen Stone rather than getting embroiled with the inaccessible Ipods and I Tunes . I know the shuffle is more accessible but as far as I am aware you still have to use I Tunes and end up paying for J Tunes scripts. Regards David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2007 15:35 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] i-pod advice Yes, you are correct. In future I will never buy anything developed by Apple. Their attitude to accessibility, especially through their Itunes software, stinks in my opinion. If it has improved I apologise to them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] i-pod advice >I think it should be noted that the shuffle is not accessible in the >standard way that items for the blind are accessible. > > I don't believe the shuffle has any speech to tell you what file is > playing or anything, it's simply made with no screen, thereby making > it equally as accessible for the blind as it is for sighted > individuals in that the items are accessed blindly. > > At least that's the way I was told about it. > > Am I correct in this assessment? > > Victor > > > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > http://www.jaws-users.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the > subject or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
