Jon,
I just created a DOS bootable disk and will have my wife go
through it with me. There were a few check box options as I
went through but none sounded applicable and there was no
related info so I did not check any. It did ask for a serial
# but I left it blank and I didn't think they wanted that
long registration # again that came with the image for
Windows program when I registered it. Hopefully if will work
ok. One thing I noticed today was I put my DVD image disk
in while Windows was running and went through the menus for
restore options. I realize you cannot write back to the
primary partition windows is currently operating from but
what if you took a hard drive and hooked it up as another
drive then select it as the destination for the image. When
the image is done, use diskpart to make the partition it
went to active. Shut the system down and then plug this hard
drive in as the main drive and boot up the machine?
Al
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of
John M.
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary
Al,
I believe that I have tried restoring from a DVD using the
DOS boot disk and
it worked OK. I wanted to try it, just to make sure that
scenario worked
and I believe that it did.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary
Jon,
Thanks for your thoughts. I'll have to create a DOS
bootable
CD and have my wife walk me through it. I believe David
said
he thought you could only restore from an external hard
drive with this option. It would be nice if I could
somehow
use what I've already created as it is a good image I
don't
know of any way to get it from the DVD to an external hard
drive and then restore from that point using the DOS
program. I wish someone would come up with some type
speech
device to use outside of Windows for when we are working
in
the system CMOS or DOS
thanks,
Al
PS Thanks again for you in-service on diskpart. I really
like that option
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf
Of
John M.
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary
The Image for DOS boot disk can be run on any machine, it
is
not machine
specific. Once booted, the DOS program works very much
like
the Windows
program. You move from screen to screen, answering a
series
of questions.
Once the restore is complete, you remove the CD, reboot
the
computer and
your are back in business. If you are doing the DVD
restore
with no sighted
assistance, then I am going to guess that there is an
option
somewhere on
the restore screen that would allow you to restore the
backup to a brand
new, unpartitioned HD.
It would be great to be able to add speech to the Image
for
Linux boot CD,
which would allow us to take full advantage of the restore
capabilities,
with no sighted assistance. Until then, we must rely on
a
good set of
eyes.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary
Good morning folks,
Well I'm finally getting around to posting on my progress
regarding this issue. I promise to make it short. What I
have found to date through research, and much trial &
error
is I have no trouble restoring an image as long as it
goes
back on the same hard drive, in the same machine, and
with
the same partitions in tact as when the image was
created.
I
have only used the optical drive so I cannot speak to
experiences using the DOS boot disk and then restoring
the
image from another hard drive etc. In my case, I was
able
to restore my system from the factory disks and then burn
a
new image and successfully reuse that as often as needed.
However, as soon as I try using another hard drive,
deleted
and then create a new partition, or make a partition
larger
than what was present when creating the image it fails.
Here
are my questions to those who use the program
differently.
Is the DOS boot disk the program will create a generic
Win
XP bootable disk or only applicable to the machine it was
created on? How much sighted assistance is needed with
the
DOS restore option and what exactly is involved? With the
DOS option, can I restore from the DVD's I've already
created and would that possibly go onto the hard drive
whereas booting from the image DVD's will not? Let me
know.
thanks
Al
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf
Of
Donald
Marang
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary
I have not replaced a drive like you are attempting to
do.
I do know that
Image for Windows is designed to do just that operation.
In
fact, it should
also make replacing the drive with a larger drive a
breeze.
I have also
heard Leo LePorte walk people through the process on his
"The Tech Guy"
radio show / podcast. He uses Image for Windows as well
(now a sponsor).
Perhaps your problem is that some manufacturers place a
fingerprint on the
drive. I do not know if they place this in the master
Boot
Record, a small,
hidden partition or just within the main partition.
Perhaps
a Google search
for replacing a drive for that manufacturer would provide
instructions. I
know I have run across similar instructions in the past.
Don Marang
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary
David,
After doing some research yesterday, I believe the
source
of
the conflict is in having multiple physical disk drives
in
the machine I set the new image up in and then burned
it.
As
you know, the BIOS assigns drive #'s and in my case the
are
0 & 1. My suspicion is that when I go to restore the
image
it is looking for a device numbered the same as on the
image. That may or may not be so. I consistently get the
same message "target device not found, press enter to
reboot." I'm wondering if the sightless restore of this
program is limited to only restoring the image on the
same
physical drive it was created from? This has good
utility
in
the event one's system gets screwed up and one wants to
simply lay down the unadulterated image again. However,
I'm
not sure of the program's utility in terms of laying
down
the image on a different or newly purchased hard drive?
Have
you had success with this? Regarding your suggestions
below,
the format of the drive I don't think that would matter
as
all info is erased and the image then is put down. The
format will be that of what the image is. The hard drive
is
the same brand but different size. I've played with many
options, even installing the image from the DVD onto the
extra drive while system is up and running. It installs
the
image ok, but when the hard drive is removed and put
into
the other computer, the system won't boot. Keep the
ideas
coming and I'll keep researching
thanks,
Al
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf
Of
David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary
Is the new drive formatted the same way as the old drive
was? Also is it the
same type of drive?
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
VIP Conduit Tech Support
www.vipconduit.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary
David,
Thanks, I'll spare you the long version (ha, ha). A
simple
way to sum all this up would be say I have a good image
on
a
DVD and my current hard drive bites the dust. I go to
the
store and buy a new one. I partition it an put it in the
machine and attempt to lay down the image on it and get
what
I described to you at the end of the message.
Suggestions?
Al
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf
Of
David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary
Al all I can say is if this is a brief description
please
don't give me the
long version because I will have to read it very
carefully
before even
having a chance of grasping a handle on what you
ultimately
ended up with.
Confused in Pennsylvania. I'll review it further.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
VIP Conduit Tech Support
www.vipconduit.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <[email protected]>
To: "Blind-Computing" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary
Well the subject says it all. I will try to be as brief
below as possible to explain my dilemma and hopefully
find
a
simple answer that I am obviously overlooking.
About a month ago I purchased Image For Windows and am
thrilled with the program. I have successfully created
and
restored two different images with no problem. Here is
my
current dilemma.
I have two Acer computers. I'll call them Intel and A M
D
so
as to not confuse them in the below dialogue I'm
describing.
My primary in home networked computer was the Intel. The
A
M
D computer as well as my wife's worked off this Intel
unit.
The computer had not been re formatted for about a year
and
a half and I also wanted to swap it out for the A M D
machine which has a faster processor and twice the
memory.
I
know the hours it can take to set a computer up from
scratch so I figured I would simply take the hard drive
out
of the A M D computer and use it to set up the Intel
computer as time permitted. The first thing I did was to
use
the Image for Windows program to create an image of the
A
M
D computer. I then restored that image to confirm it
worked
prior to taking the hard drive out and using it in the
Intel
machine. I also created an image of the Intel machine
before
doing anything just in case something went amuck. I then
unplugged the Intel hard drive and plugged the A M D one
into that unit. I got the factory restore disks out for
the
Intel computer and installed them on the A M D hard
drive
which was now temporarily in the Intel unit. This erased
all
data on the A M D hard drive and created the factory
image
of the Intel computer. Everything worked well and I
installed JAWS, a few other key programs I wanted and
then
burned a new image with image for windows to use a
starting
point from now on with the Intel computer so I did not
need
to take hours setting it up from scratch again. I then
removed the A M D hard drive from the Intel computer and
plugged the Intel one back in. The Intel computer booted
up
fine and picked up from where it left off prior to
switching
hard drives. I then took the A M D hard drive and put it
back in the A M D machine and put the original A M D
image
I
had created prior to starting this project back on it.
The
A
M d computer booted up fine (Just like David said it
would)
and it was if nothing had ever changed. Now, for the
dilemma. I wanted to put the new image I created on the
Intel machine on the Intel hard drive to in essence
have
a
new, freshly formatted computer. The image will not go
on
that hard drive. What happens is I put the initial disk
in
the it boots just like it is supposed to. The tray comes
out
and asks for the last disk of the set. I put that in,
the
DVD whirs for a minute and then the tray comes out and
asks
for the first disk again. When I put this back in I do
not
get the dialogue asking for the Y or N to proceed and
put
that image on the hard drive. It goes back to a basic
screen saying boot device cannot be found, press enter
to
continue. When I do this the same process repeats but I
never can get anywhere. I thought there may be something
wrong with the Intel machine so I took the hard drive
out
and put it in the A M D machine (unplugging the A M D
hard
drives) to try on that machine which I know works and
same
thing happened. I have even deleted all partitions on
the
Intel hard drive and created and formatted new ones to
emulate a new hard drive and same out come as above.
Anyone
have a solution as to how I can get the image I made
with
image for windows on that Intel hard drive?
thanks
Al
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