Don, Good points and ideas. The fingerprint etc you discuss would all be eliminated with the clean command, correct? After not being able to do what I wanted, I wiped the drive clean, re partitioned it and layed down new formats. I think I'm going to once again set it up with the factory disks and try creating and replacing the image to see if that works.
Al -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary I have not replaced a drive like you are attempting to do. I do know that Image for Windows is designed to do just that operation. In fact, it should also make replacing the drive with a larger drive a breeze. I have also heard Leo LePorte walk people through the process on his "The Tech Guy" radio show / podcast. He uses Image for Windows as well (now a sponsor). Perhaps your problem is that some manufacturers place a fingerprint on the drive. I do not know if they place this in the master Boot Record, a small, hidden partition or just within the main partition. Perhaps a Google search for replacing a drive for that manufacturer would provide instructions. I know I have run across similar instructions in the past. Don Marang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary > David, > > After doing some research yesterday, I believe the source of > the conflict is in having multiple physical disk drives in > the machine I set the new image up in and then burned it. As > you know, the BIOS assigns drive #'s and in my case the are > 0 & 1. My suspicion is that when I go to restore the image > it is looking for a device numbered the same as on the > image. That may or may not be so. I consistently get the > same message "target device not found, press enter to > reboot." I'm wondering if the sightless restore of this > program is limited to only restoring the image on the same > physical drive it was created from? This has good utility in > the event one's system gets screwed up and one wants to > simply lay down the unadulterated image again. However, I'm > not sure of the program's utility in terms of laying down > the image on a different or newly purchased hard drive? Have > you had success with this? Regarding your suggestions below, > the format of the drive I don't think that would matter as > all info is erased and the image then is put down. The > format will be that of what the image is. The hard drive is > the same brand but different size. I've played with many > options, even installing the image from the DVD onto the > extra drive while system is up and running. It installs the > image ok, but when the hard drive is removed and put into > the other computer, the system won't boot. Keep the ideas > coming and I'll keep researching > thanks, > Al > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of > David Ferrin > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary > > > Is the new drive formatted the same way as the old drive > was? Also is it the > same type of drive? > David Ferrin > www.jaws-users.com > VIP Conduit Tech Support > www.vipconduit.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary > > > David, > > Thanks, I'll spare you the long version (ha, ha). A simple > way to sum all this up would be say I have a good image on a > DVD and my current hard drive bites the dust. I go to the > store and buy a new one. I partition it an put it in the > machine and attempt to lay down the image on it and get what > I described to you at the end of the message. Suggestions? > > Al > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of > David Ferrin > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary > > > Al all I can say is if this is a brief description please > don't give me the > long version because I will have to read it very carefully > before even > having a chance of grasping a handle on what you ultimately > ended up with. > Confused in Pennsylvania. I'll review it further. > David Ferrin > www.jaws-users.com > VIP Conduit Tech Support > www.vipconduit.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <[email protected]> > To: "Blind-Computing" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [Blind-Computing] Image restore quandary > > > Well the subject says it all. I will try to be as brief > below as possible to explain my dilemma and hopefully find a > simple answer that I am obviously overlooking. > About a month ago I purchased Image For Windows and am > thrilled with the program. I have successfully created and > restored two different images with no problem. Here is my > current dilemma. > I have two Acer computers. I'll call them Intel and A M D so > as to not confuse them in the below dialogue I'm describing. > My primary in home networked computer was the Intel. The A M > D computer as well as my wife's worked off this Intel unit. > The computer had not been re formatted for about a year and > a half and I also wanted to swap it out for the A M D > machine which has a faster processor and twice the memory. I > know the hours it can take to set a computer up from > scratch so I figured I would simply take the hard drive out > of the A M D computer and use it to set up the Intel > computer as time permitted. The first thing I did was to use > the Image for Windows program to create an image of the A M > D computer. I then restored that image to confirm it worked > prior to taking the hard drive out and using it in the Intel > machine. I also created an image of the Intel machine before > doing anything just in case something went amuck. I then > unplugged the Intel hard drive and plugged the A M D one > into that unit. I got the factory restore disks out for the > Intel computer and installed them on the A M D hard drive > which was now temporarily in the Intel unit. This erased all > data on the A M D hard drive and created the factory image > of the Intel computer. Everything worked well and I > installed JAWS, a few other key programs I wanted and then > burned a new image with image for windows to use a starting > point from now on with the Intel computer so I did not need > to take hours setting it up from scratch again. I then > removed the A M D hard drive from the Intel computer and > plugged the Intel one back in. The Intel computer booted up > fine and picked up from where it left off prior to switching > hard drives. I then took the A M D hard drive and put it > back in the A M D machine and put the original A M D image I > had created prior to starting this project back on it. The A > M d computer booted up fine (Just like David said it would) > and it was if nothing had ever changed. Now, for the > dilemma. I wanted to put the new image I created on the > Intel machine on the Intel hard drive to in essence have a > new, freshly formatted computer. The image will not go on > that hard drive. What happens is I put the initial disk in > the it boots just like it is supposed to. The tray comes out > and asks for the last disk of the set. I put that in, the > DVD whirs for a minute and then the tray comes out and asks > for the first disk again. When I put this back in I do not > get the dialogue asking for the Y or N to proceed and put > that image on the hard drive. It goes back to a basic > screen saying boot device cannot be found, press enter to > continue. When I do this the same process repeats but I > never can get anywhere. I thought there may be something > wrong with the Intel machine so I took the hard drive out > and put it in the A M D machine (unplugging the A M D hard > drives) to try on that machine which I know works and same > thing happened. I have even deleted all partitions on the > Intel hard drive and created and formatted new ones to > emulate a new hard drive and same out come as above. Anyone > have a solution as to how I can get the image I made with > image for windows on that Intel hard drive? > > thanks > Al > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
